End Game Woes & the LFG Tool without an iLvL ?

I don't know why you think you know or get to decide what's best for everyone. So let me just say there are different types of people who can be catered to at the same time. I want a tool that is more useful to more people, not just one group. There was a time when we had no LFG tool and people asked for it....guess what? People like you told them this game wasn't for them. Now, we have a LFG tool. Nothing wrong with improvements on it.

I want a LFG tool that is useful to more people, you are against it without any actual reason behind it. Now you say HM's shouldn't be part of it at all and again, no actual reasoning behind it....just another random statement. So, I do wonder, are you just trolling?

HM's are part of the LFG tool...if you're against that, maybe this isn't the game for you then huh?

That's exactly the whole point of this thread. The LFG tool wasn't designed properly for the examples mentioned at the start. Maybe if you read the OP & it's subsequent explanation properly, instead of flaming at every opportunity, you might have derived that.

The point of LFG is to help players.

If you are geared, and you dont want to risk a random, you dont have to use LFG.

If you want to get yoru 5 BH comms, you should work for it, and this is by helping another. I regualy queue for LFG with 3 geared ppl, on occation we get a newbie and help him through, give advice if needed. The only thing I ever queue carefully for is LI HM, bascily ill chose my dps. If I have a newish tank or healer, I can teach them if I have 2 ranged dps there.

The LFG tool is not an instant gratification tool. It is there to help you and others. As it helps you get a group, its not wrong that it asks you to help that group. If you wnat a certain setup, or gear, you can take teh time to make the group yourselves?


Sorry about the bad spelling and gramma, I am rather dyslexic.

Then why let it bother you so much? dont use the damn lfg tool for hm if you dont like it. Its just as easy now to make a group without the lfg tool as it was before the lfg tool was implemented and if youre known as a good player its even easier.

Your inexplicable desire to ***** about the lfg tool that you are not forced to use baffles me almost as much as your inability to understand that throwing a fresh 50 in level 46 greens into a hm flashpoint is bad for the fresh 50 and bad for the group forced to try to carry him, its like you just dont understand the concept of a dps check or the fact that content is tuned to a certain gear level.

Yeah, I love getting kicked out of groups because my gear isn't "good enough" Lets just make it even more difficult to get geared by adding a stat that lets elitist jerks have more reasons to kick you. Great idea. Really you should be on the design team.

Next time I have a tank with 11k health try and tank HM LI for me, I'll let him know he's having fun and I don't mind. And yes, that actually has happened. I don't know how he had any fun, though. Y'know, due to the fact he couldn't stay alive with full campaign IA Healer and our DPS sorc both trying to keep him alive. That's an odd idea of fun.

Also, I like how people get upset at the prospective of having a tool that matched people's gear level. What's wrong with an all fresh 50 group? You can all learn together and benefit each other. You're only happy when you are being carried? It seems like a very strange standpoint. I love helping people through content, but there's a point if you're tanking with under 14k health or dint bother to mod your gear at 50.

It's not about a stat...as explained it matches people together with similar gear. It's not about a system that let's you kick people for gear reasons but automatically selects people together who are more closely geared.

And besides, if your gear isn't good enough, you'll find soon enough that less and less people will use the LFG tool as it is. I'm pretty sure that that's where it's headed. Sure I need to get some BH comms now, but by wednesday I won't need it anymore. If it wasn't for the BH comms I would've stopped using it already.

There is another thread that discusses a new situation. People get a team together in LFG and then see that it's a crap team and leave. So they have to wait 12 mins before they can do it again. Apparently people rather do that than suffer that team. It even happens before the team is accepted. They recognise crap players and decline etc. I am pretty sure that this is going to happen more as time goes along.

Do you just not understand that almost all hm flashpoints have atleast one boss that has an enrage timer that cannot be beat without a certain level of gear no matter how good the players are?

And why do you think you deserve to just be carried through content? Why do you think you should not have to put in the tiny bit of effort it takes to be properly geared for the content you would like to do? Why do you think other people should put in more effort so you can put in less?

If the lfg tool had gear checks you wouldnt be kicked out of groups for trying to force everyone in your pug to help you skip all the steps they had to do to gear out their characters to make them ready for end game content.

You people act like the gearing would be crazy high. Hm fps are not hard, they do not take really good gear to beat, but hm pugs should not be strapped with people trying to take short cuts in green level 46 gear.

You are reading my point backwards. It's the other people complaining that they have to carry others and want them removed from being able to try.

But carrying is only possible to a point. How can you agree to tanks in recruit DPS gear queuing for Operations and HM FPs? I don't care how good they are, gear does matter.