Why swtor is not succesfull

Ok, does WoW and LOTRO have alot of stuff... yes. They have also been around for longer than 7 months.

this is a New Game, of course its not going to have the same stuff that older games do, when SWTOR has been around for as long as WoW or LOTRO then we can compare MMO-peens.

Alot of people dont remember how buggy and unplayable vanilla was, we have had a much better start than V-WoW

releasing a game that drops to single digit frames id call still in beta if u think swtor was ready for dec 2011 you must be new or a sw fanboi

to above poster this is 2012 well 2011 when swtor came out not 7 years ago different market now u release buggy crap lacking in basic features your rivals has your not lasting long

blizzard says hi

This isn't highlander.

I don't know about that. I know I, for one, shout "The Quickening!" every time I use Force Lightning with my Inquisitor.

Honestly I think saying TOR is missing what other MMORPGs have is a mistake in itself!

If I loved what those other MMOs had Id still be playing them.

Having said that, TOR is missing TOR FLUFF!

Paazaak (this not being in launch is UNFORGIVABLE TO ME)
Swoop racing ala KotOR1 (this not being in Launch is UNFORGIVABLE to me)
Pit Fighting (heck in legacy you even get unarmed fighting abilities yet there is no combat pits like in K1 and K2, COME ON!!!)

Those 3 are the biggest reason I dont think EA deserves any breaks or credit at all.

The fact those 3 didnt make Launch is completely unacceptable to me.
The fact that over 6 months after launch they still not in game is a complete JOKE to be honest and tells me the design team doesnt have a freaking clue.

TOR launched with combat, combat, and more combat and even a uneducated WOW player could have told EA that people will get bored of combat only in a MMORPG.

TOR is in effect a nice shinny box with nothing inside right now and players like me keep hoping and praying we start getting some fluff and filler inside and instead we get meaningless pets. Id gladly give back all the pets I have and will get for working Paazaak and Swoop Racing and pit fighting in game.

1.4 should be all about Paazaak and swoop racing. Hell 1.1 should have been, Beta should have been.

If EA ever gets their act togather and starts filling out TOR and community/social building content, this game will start to get a heart beat and a soul. Till then TOR really just plays like a game of Diablo where you group up and kill stuff over and over.

As a MMO it lacks all the extras that create communities and social enviroments.

Conclusion: This game will be picked apart to death in the forums.
Just like the other MMO forums...developers are left with no recourse but to let the threads blow up and die out, There will always be unhappy people that will be so Chronicaly nit picky that the game is no longer fun for them because the concept of a glass being have full is a fleeting thought.Its tunnel vision and a mob mentality, meaning generaly outside of being in a mob you wouldn't heave so many rocks , bottles and other debri at other people.

I have seen action taken to improve and try to please the community, but everytime, the community lashes out in dissaproval or really enjoy the patches and updates.
Fluff? maybe some of that fluff was on the backburner due to the voice over process to give players something new and more emersive and to create stories that are more alive rather than a silent npc along with a text window..
There is plenty of places to upgrade and utilize areas in the game for future content.
Casinos, Cantinas,the future may hold more fluff in those locations down the road, thats an assumption, not an expectation or fact.

Let the game evolve, they do open threads for the zillion questions the community has , although it seems impossable to please everyone with an answer to all those questions.

It is not just the TOR forums picking TOR apart, it is other sources also. You donot launch a new MMO nowdays without "all" the features other existiing top MMO's have allready. If you do, you are going to severely limit your potential.

Because there was so much to do in goldshire...

I'm not saying we don't need some small side games, its just that goldshire is a bad example.

I'm not quitting because we don't have mini games. I spend enough time doing the regular stuff. Oh, and please tell me what defines successful in this genre when WoW has 10 millon people and everyone else has a million or less.

As long as they have an active base and turning a profit, they are successful.

This is what I think every time I come around here. (careful, some wised up and just troll swtor facebook page for free)

Yeah swtor is not succesful* because you can't sit in chairs



*warning: the meaning of successful may be different for every person