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If Bio/EA used microtransactions, what do you want/not want to see?

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If Bio/EA used microtransactions, what do you want/not want to see?

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havok_bloodcraft
07.04.2012 , 12:57 AM | #191
Quote: Originally Posted by Izorii View Post
I would hope that it would be cosmetic issues. Such as new species, new speeders, new ships and possible new compaions.
I would hope they just add those things to the game as it is.

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Triserpent
07.04.2012 , 03:12 AM | #192
The only thing I would be interested in would be Charecter transfer. Freely choose where to go from one server to another. Since I had friends spread out in the beginning, and now I am alone on one kind of server and have RL friends playing on another. Really annoying.
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DiabloDoom
07.04.2012 , 03:29 AM | #193
If they charge anywhere near the price of the deluxe upgrade for similar fluff to what the deluxe upgrade offers, they won't make much from it. Worst purchase I have ever made in any game ...

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fptackle
07.04.2012 , 04:26 AM | #194
Quote: Originally Posted by havok_bloodcraft View Post
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all new content should be universal.
I've been playing MMOs since Year One of Everquest, so a little more than a decade. Paid subscriptions all that time for various games that I've moved through. But, and here's the crazy thing, just about every subscription game I've played has eventually had this crazy thing be released called an 'expansion'. It's a chunk of new content that you have to pay for, even though you're already subscribed. And if you don't pay for it, get this, they don't even let you use it. I know, the mind boggles.

The funny thing is, nobody really says "That Expansion is Pay To Win because if you don't buy it you can't play the new stuff". It's pretty well accepted that the Expansion is in fact "Pay to Play" because it costs money to use it, and that the game as a whole remains "Play to WIn" because they give you nothing unless you clear content.

So what is a Marketplace? It's an expansion a la carte. It's that same $50 expansion, split into 50 differant $1 peices. And as a player, you actually benefit, because you can skip out on the ones you wouldn't have used. Don't want to be a Alien Cat-girl? You have the option to not buy it. Instead of having it bundled in with your $50 expansion where you're stuck paying for it whether you'll use it or not. Microtransactions are more player friendly than larger Expansions because the updates come more frequently since they are smaller in size, and you do not have to purchase anything which you do not wish to use.

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Slaxinexx
07.04.2012 , 04:34 AM | #195
Actually, if they ever decide to go F2P, instead i unsub, they should give me the option to activate a server of SWG pre-RNG or better pre-revamp1 and play there...

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Sarfux
07.04.2012 , 04:42 AM | #196
We will be paying 15 dollars a month for the whole game a month. That's it. No money for free content updates OR expansions. That's how they wanted to do it from the beginning of time of the game, that's what James Ohlen has said he wants to do for the players, that's how it will be done just wait and see.
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maelstromicus
07.04.2012 , 04:42 AM | #197
Quote: Originally Posted by fptackle View Post
I've been playing MMOs since Year One of Everquest, so a little more than a decade. Paid subscriptions all that time for various games that I've moved through. But, and here's the crazy thing, just about every subscription game I've played has eventually had this crazy thing be released called an 'expansion'. It's a chunk of new content that you have to pay for, even though you're already subscribed. And if you don't pay for it, get this, they don't even let you use it. I know, the mind boggles.

The funny thing is, nobody really says "That Expansion is Pay To Win because if you don't buy it you can't play the new stuff". It's pretty well accepted that the Expansion is in fact "Pay to Play" because it costs money to use it, and that the game as a whole remains "Play to WIn" because they give you nothing unless you clear content.

So what is a Marketplace? It's an expansion a la carte. It's that same $50 expansion, split into 50 differant $1 peices. And as a player, you actually benefit, because you can skip out on the ones you wouldn't have used. Don't want to be a Alien Cat-girl? You have the option to not buy it. Instead of having it bundled in with your $50 expansion where you're stuck paying for it whether you'll use it or not. Microtransactions are more player friendly than larger Expansions because the updates come more frequently since they are smaller in size, and you do not have to purchase anything which you do not wish to use.
However, this is not always the case.
I have played a few "F2P"'s now where they used micro-transactions, and those games used those micro-transactions as a means of continual revenue from the players. The items needed to play high level content weren't "one-off" purchases. You had to buy them on a weekly or monthly basis. That seems to be the norm in a lot of micro transaction cash shops. When that happens, it ends up costing way more than a monthly sub to play such games.

Free to Plays are, in my humble opinion, a scam. I have yet to play one where it costs less than a monthly subbed game (including expansion packs) on a monthly basis to play end-game content. My guild and I have taken part in about a dozen F2P's in the last few years, so it's from some experience I say this. I won't name games for legal reasons. Suffice to say, if SWTOR goes F2P, then unfortunately I'll be hitting the uninstall button. It'll be a shame, as I do think that this game has good long term potential if the developer investment levels are kept consistent or increased.

It's worth noting that the most successful MMO in history is still subscription based, and the only MMO's that seem to go F2P micro transaction based are those that fail on a sub basis due to subscription levels dropping off. That largest, longest running MMO still has regular releases of new content, which keeps its subscription levels at a workable financial model. Is it a coincidence that a fall in popularity (normally due to a lack of new content) prompts a different financial model? Oldest trick in the book: milk a dieing business for all it's worth before it dies.
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Ducilia
07.04.2012 , 08:00 AM | #198
Don't want to see; Anything that increases your abilities, stats, survivability, whatever

Do wanna see; anything else. I don't mind paying a few bucks for an extra planet or some (cosmetic) gear, as long as the drops and stats are not better then anything obtainable in the game without paying extra.

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Gruug
07.04.2012 , 08:05 AM | #199
Quote: Originally Posted by Maxil View Post

IF
Microtransactions are brought into The Old Republic, what do you want to see in the store?
What do you not want to see in the store?
NOTHING!!!!!!

If SWTOR ever implements "microtransactions" I will no longer be a customer....PERIOD.


Give me an MMO that I can visit and have fun! Where what I pay for is not going to those that play for free.

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Coriolan_Martius
07.05.2012 , 12:20 PM | #200
I am not going to bother threatening to leave if this game goes F2P. It is obvious that devs / management don't care(see 1.2 debacle). However, subscription based games that go F2P usually go down a dark path.

It starts out being fairly innocent. However, over time the lure of charging people gets greater and greater.At first it is just cosmetics. Then it becomes quality of life. Later on items and/or levels are locked out unless players fork over money. Eventually, in the drive to squeeze more and more money out of players, the devs surreptitiously introduce Pay 2 Win by having special items with better stats available.

I think what I am trying to say is that temptation is too strong and a company like EA will have no trouble making it impossible to avoid the "store". It is sad because I would happily pay more for my monthly sub and/or expansions if they keep the content coming. But I will not be nickel and dimed to death to keep up with the little kiddies.