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AHHHH, it burns!!! The Recruit gear does nothing!!!

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AHHHH, it burns!!! The Recruit gear does nothing!!!

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Belly
06.29.2012 , 02:47 PM | #31
Well, i'll have to be ok with the two hugs so far

At any rate, i've decided that until I get some decent gear i'll just do my best to be annoying. Luckily I can be of some use via taunts and guarding. Oh, and positioning to. Guardians are nothing if not mobile with the 2 leaps and all that.
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06.29.2012 , 02:56 PM | #32
/hug brochacho...
Yup, you're gonna get beat down for a day or two, just hang in there. Before you know it, you will be in full aug WH, face-melting the fresh recruits.
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JeramieCrowe
06.30.2012 , 08:45 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Belly View Post
Finally got to 50 and put on my spiffy new recurit armor. I figure, I can at least hold my own right?

NOPE!!

Seems like everybody on the other team has at least 18k HP, that was like the lowest I saw in about 15-20 warzones I ran. In some cases, it was just 3 or 4 GCD's and my poor little guardian was taking a trip to the spawn point. Whats worse, some of them simply ignored me, laughing at my small and puny lightsaber

I don't want any battlemaster nerfs or anything, can I just have a hug plx?
This is the concern I have about Expertise, period. What's going to happen when the next tier set comes out? Bracket level 50 PvP then? And the next set after that? Another bracket, segregating the pool even more?

Recruit-level PvP is already a chore, where you can contribute very little and just zerg like mad. Sorry, but that's not PvP...
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AngusFTW
06.30.2012 , 08:54 AM | #34
If you'd saved up your comms you could have had a piece of war hero gear and a piece bm gear..
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JeramieCrowe
06.30.2012 , 08:58 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by AngusFTW View Post
If you'd saved up your comms you could have had a piece of war hero gear and a piece bm gear..
This is assuming someone does significant PvP before 50. However, BioWare's goal (which had been working so far) is to get people who normally don't PvP to try it and like it. To encourage the casual PvP. Which many people wait until higher levels to do. Expertise, imho, works against that goal.

Especially given the sudden, quite noticeable, drop in viability from 49 to 50.
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Sinemetu
06.30.2012 , 11:54 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by AngusFTW View Post
If you'd saved up your comms you could have had a piece of war hero gear and a piece bm gear..
I can see the BM item, but how do you get the WH item? That takes rated comms, right? And wouldn't I have to turn in my BM item to get the WH item regardless?
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cashogy
06.30.2012 , 11:57 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
This is assuming someone does significant PvP before 50. However, BioWare's goal (which had been working so far) is to get people who normally don't PvP to try it and like it. To encourage the casual PvP. Which many people wait until higher levels to do. Expertise, imho, works against that goal.

Especially given the sudden, quite noticeable, drop in viability from 49 to 50.
if you want to be effective in PvP, you need to get pvp gear. its not rocket science.........

i dont expect to be able to dabble into hardmode operations with my PvP gear, and you dont see me asking the devs to decrease the difficulty of PvE so that I can do it in lesser gear.
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JeramieCrowe
06.30.2012 , 12:04 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy View Post
if you want to be effective in PvP, you need to get pvp gear. its not rocket science.........

i dont expect to be able to dabble into hardmode operations with my PvP gear, and you dont see me asking the devs to decrease the difficulty of PvE so that I can do it in lesser gear.
I understand that. But PvP shouldn't be about gear, period.
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Crystabel
06.30.2012 , 12:31 PM | #39
If you were a fresh 50 before the free recruit gear you would know that recruit DOES make a difference. When I moved up from my regular gear and bought recruit I lasted longer than pre-recruit. Sure, it was still a semi-fast death, but it wasn't instantaneous. I just pushed through until I could get the battlemaster, and am still working on war hero.

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Omnistarr
06.30.2012 , 12:43 PM | #40
This is where you learn, my friend! I've done it once on my main (though, that was during the few weeks following launch proper and the token system was in use) and twice on my alts. Yeah, it sucks and you go down fast. But, you learn how to get the most out of your class in a very short amount of time. Also, you learn key survival techniques. There's more to PvP than charging in and trying to bash face, mate. I'm sure you'll be fine, just keep at it.

P.S.: If you want to see just how nice Recruit gear is, do some Warzones in PvP gear.
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