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A solution to the loss of names due to transfers

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A solution to the loss of names due to transfers

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Phatzorro
06.28.2012 , 05:39 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Halford View Post
Cooper and Manson both picked their stage names in a day, though it would take years (and alchoholism) for their names to be legally changed.

Considering Luke's last name changed several times in the writing process, I'd say George Lucas certainly didn't plan it out for MONTHS. Considering the name itself means nothing, and that all of the other names (Han, Leia, Lando, etc) were all made up, I would have to argue that "pick any name and go with it" is actually form and function in not just the world of Lucas, but Space Opera's and overall Fantasy as well.
Hmm. but how would we have felt if, after Empire, Lukes name suddenly changed to Norman? While you may not attach much importance to a name, others do. And whether you agree or not, this is an issue that should be addressed, The transfers could have been handled better. Bioware did it this way because its the easiest way, and unless people complain about it, they will not know how this has affected people. The whole thing with business is customer satisfaction, and businesses will continue to think that everyone is satisfied with them if people do not complain about changes. If you are satisfied with the way it was handled then fine, but its a bit presumptuous to keep having a pop at people who are not.
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Phatzorro
06.28.2012 , 05:51 PM | #42
Oh, and the simplest way to deal with this is to give the people affected a free transfer to another server. I personally am annoyed that I was given no choice in where my toon went, it was either stay on a dead server or move to this server and have your name and legacy changed. Give people a choice of servers and you can pick and CHOOSE. If your name is taken on the new server move somewhere else.
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Darth_Halford
06.29.2012 , 12:11 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by RaithHarth View Post
It's funny how you said you take this seriously, because obviously you don't seem to care about those that were affected by this, we were robbed of our identities, why should we bother taking anything less than that? It matters not if we transferred to another destination, we still have every right to remain who we were right from the getgo, yes I realize bioware doesn't keep track of these sort of things, but maybe it's time for some change around here in order to get some more flexibility between players.

Remember Quality always out measures Quantity, and clearly when it comes to the naming policies, there is no Quality at all only Quantity.
No I don't care what happens. That doesn't mean I don't take it seriously. I'm looking at this from purely logical mindset, and not from the mindset of someone who feels that they've been wronged or owed something.

You were not robbed your identity: certainly not the one that matters (your real identity). You are still you and your character is still the same person that he/she/it always was.

You don't have a "right" to anything. You have "privelages" as described per the Terms of Service, In Game Policies and the End User Agreement.

Here's how I know YOU aren't taking this seriously: I've said numerous times why the kind of flexibility you're looking for won't work and you don't care or even adress the issues that are brought up.
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Darth_Halford
06.29.2012 , 12:15 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Phatzorro View Post
Hmm. but how would we have felt if, after Empire, Lukes name suddenly changed to Norman? While you may not attach much importance to a name, others do. And whether you agree or not, this is an issue that should be addressed, The transfers could have been handled better. Bioware did it this way because its the easiest way, and unless people complain about it, they will not know how this has affected people. The whole thing with business is customer satisfaction, and businesses will continue to think that everyone is satisfied with them if people do not complain about changes. If you are satisfied with the way it was handled then fine, but its a bit presumptuous to keep having a pop at people who are not.
Anyone whose actually dealt with customer service realizes you can't please everyone at once, no matter how hard you try, and that trying to do so becomes more expensive than it's really worth.

Yes, they did do it the easy way, and well they should. There were more prevalent problems going on, like players on servers being completly unable to do any content that involved more than one character. The ammount of coding to get it so that what Wraith is expecting to happen would have added alot of additional time to the process with no real benefit to anything.

I'm not taking a shot at him or anyone else because he's not happy. I'm taking a shot at his idea because its wholly unrealistic and makes no logical sense.
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Bugjuice
06.29.2012 , 12:48 AM | #45
On one hand I don't understand why all games don't adopt the system where as you friend, message and interact with the account name or an account tag, and then they can name their characters whatever they like for RP purposes, and for the world to see.

That said, the only reason people have overlapping character names is because their names are not original. As proven by the fact that they are happened upon by more than one person. And when in the history of forever have you ever been in a place where no two people share a first or a last name?

But in a more pragmatic and realistic approach to SWTOR's existing system: I can see how it would be irritating to share both first and last name with another person since you're supposed to be a unique snowflake and a hero character, but I see no reason why two people couldn't have the same first name, for example. So how about releasing the lock on first names, and using legacy name to friend & whisper.

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Havokk
06.29.2012 , 02:49 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Bugjuice View Post
On one hand I don't understand why all games don't adopt the system where as you friend, message and interact with the account name or an account tag, an
1. Because I don't want you or anyone else knowing my account name. Ever.
2. Because I sometimes want to be online without my friends and guildmates knowing that I am online.
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DeltaCharlieTwo
06.29.2012 , 04:59 AM | #47
I love this idea, I've even heard it a few times, that and this topic has annoyed me to no end since I lost both of my mains names to Imperial classes (I fight for the Republic) and one of them seems to be just holding the name to either sell it or because the owner had the same name. that and marriage would be good to see as well, allow two player's family trees merge. =)

But what about if you've already imported over your character with another name or used those "Alt Codes"? my suggestion would be either add in a NPC onto the Republic/Imperial Fleet or here on the SWTOR website in an area like the character transfer area.
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RaithHarth
06.29.2012 , 07:52 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Havokk View Post
1. Because I don't want you or anyone else knowing my account name. Ever.
2. Because I sometimes want to be online without my friends and guildmates knowing that I am online.
nobody will know your account name it will be unseen, in-game usernames and legacy names will be linked per account not server
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Darth_Halford
06.29.2012 , 09:55 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by RaithHarth View Post
nobody will know your account name it will be unseen, in-game usernames and legacy names will be linked per account not server
Except that it is exactly what bugjuice suggested.

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On one hand I don't understand why all games don't adopt the system where as you friend, message and interact with the account name or an account tag, and then they can name their characters whatever they like for RP purposes, and for the world to see.
Quote:
But in a more pragmatic and realistic approach to SWTOR's existing system: I can see how it would be irritating to share both first and last name with another person since you're supposed to be a unique snowflake and a hero character, but I see no reason why two people couldn't have the same first name, for example. So how about releasing the lock on first names, and using legacy name to friend & whisper.
Wee, we get to ride the merry-go-round yet again. I hope you pay better attention.
A) because you don't start with a Legacy Name
B) per A, The system identifies your character through the first name that it was created under. Without a Legacy, or other identifier, there's no way to "unlock" that.
C) If A were made untrue, that would weaken the value of having a Legacy and the rewards would need to be retooled.
D) Showing your Legacy name is an optional feature, and most players seem to take the option of hiding their Legacy.
E) Per D, there is no mechanic that makes this work without alienating those players, which is just as bad as forcing Wraith to "lose his identity"
Quote: Originally Posted by wjramussen
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Bugjuice
06.29.2012 , 10:52 AM | #50
Is there a particular reason why so many people in here are so jaded, cynical and hostile? We're just talking theoreticals here. And I did say "OR AN ACCOUNT TAG". But I guess you stopp reading after "OMG he said something I don't agree with".

Check your hostile and elitist attitudes, please.