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What do you fear more, Smash or Rail shot?

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What do you fear more, Smash or Rail shot?

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kitsinni
06.29.2012 , 07:47 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by warultima View Post
Actually if everything crits its 15k+ at least in the "good old days".

e.g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCpCE2qKnYI

talk is too cheap lets see some action.
Yea in the good ole days of relic + adrenal + explosive fuel on the right target with lucky crits sure, but in 1.3 that is NOT going to happen, esspecially ona War Hero with 21k health and 1300 expertise. Not to mention now everyone has a TON more endurance from augments and healers are healing for more.
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kitsinni
06.29.2012 , 07:52 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by BurnsTwoThree View Post
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Defensive CDs + Sorc = Nonexistent EDIT: You could possibly count the bubble as a Defensive CD as of now since it does not scale with gear as it should. But even then it'd leave the person at like 45%

To say that Sorc would by chance have any Defensive CDs or heals on him is best case scenario. To be honest you won't see best case scenario too often and yes, 30% is about the amount of health he will be at if no heals are casted on him. I might sound like a broken record, but some abilities are overtuned. Pyrotech just happens to have a couple of em.
Sorc > Sprint out of range of 90% of the PT's attacks, Bubble, CC the PT. Even then after 1.3 if both are WH augmented and the PT gets off all of that and even crits I still doubt seriously that the sorc would be at 30% health, and even then if they were you should either heal yourself, take the huge heal of the WZ medpack or have your healer throw one heal on you in that time and we don't kill you.

EDIT: Forgot the most important and easiest one .. just cleanse yourself and we can't railshot!
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AppleRedX
06.29.2012 , 07:54 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Kayse View Post
I can kill them on my Sentinel/Marauder if my CD's are down but they can take me down extremely easily as well. The only reason i can at all on my Sentinel/Marauder is because of those CDs. Other classes hardly stand a chance versus Powertechs and get nuked down in a few seconds flat. Rail shots 90% arp and their massive elemental dots keep tanks from even tanking them, unless you are a tankassassin. Only 3 classes can really beat Powertechs 1 v 1, Sents, if their CDs are down, have some chance. Tankassassins can actually out last them, and snipers can out dps barely. Railshot in itself is strong as hell, and thats only one of their giant burst hits.
So you can kill Pyros ... just not on every class. Works as intended.

The Pyro is the arctypical (burst) DD-Class. And damage it's really all they have. They can do a hell lot of damage with some procluck, but have abyssimal abilities in other areas (defense, getting outofcombat).

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warultima
06.29.2012 , 07:55 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by kitsinni View Post
Yea in the good ole days of relic + adrenal + explosive fuel on the right target with lucky crits sure, but in 1.3 that is NOT going to happen, esspecially ona War Hero with 21k health and 1300 expertise. Not to mention now everyone has a TON more endurance from augments and healers are healing for more.
And PT cant have full augmented WH like everyone else... oh wait...
Nothing has changed much but with relics being passive +power instead of bursting for 6k a railshot once every 120 seconds now you can burst for 5k all day long.

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Twor
06.29.2012 , 07:56 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by BurnsTwoThree View Post
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Defensive CDs + Sorc = Nonexistent EDIT: You could possibly count the bubble as a Defensive CD as of now since it does not scale with gear as it should. But even then it'd leave the person at like 45%

To say that Sorc would by chance have any Defensive CDs or heals on him is best case scenario. To be honest you won't see best case scenario too often and yes, 30% is about the amount of health he will be at if no heals are casted on him. I might sound like a broken record, but some abilities are overtuned. Pyrotech just happens to have a couple of em.
And how much health would the sorc have left if he did the same (allow someone 5 free gcds) against an OP or a marauder for example...

Usually the sorcs I open up on use force sprint once the first hip lands. That puts them out of the 30m range before my GCD is off to grapple quite often.

*edit* some else posted this already while I typed.
Quote: Originally Posted by fungihoujo View Post
BW motto- If it ain't broke, break it. If it is broke, take it away.

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kitsinni
06.29.2012 , 07:57 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by warultima View Post
And PT cant have full augmented WH like everyone else... oh wait...
Nothing has changed much but with relics being passive +power instead of bursting for 6k a railshot once every 120 seconds now you can burst for 5k all day long.
And if made up numbers meant anything that would all be fine and dandy.
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BurnsTwoThree
06.29.2012 , 08:00 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by kitsinni View Post
.healers are healing for more.
Misinformation at it's finest.

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kitsinni
06.29.2012 , 08:01 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by BurnsTwoThree View Post
Misinformation at it's finest.
So you are saying that having all of those augment slots are gonig to lower the amount that a healer can heal?
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Twor
06.29.2012 , 08:03 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by kitsinni View Post
Sorc > Sprint out of range of 90% of the PT's attacks, Bubble, CC the PT. Even then after 1.3 if both are WH augmented and the PT gets off all of that and even crits I still doubt seriously that the sorc would be at 30% health, and even then if they were you should either heal yourself, take the huge heal of the WZ medpack or have your healer throw one heal on you in that time and we don't kill you.

EDIT: Forgot the most important and easiest one .. just cleanse yourself and we can't railshot!
Sorc can't cleanse our dots though Afaik its Techdamage, scoundrels and commandos can.
Quote: Originally Posted by fungihoujo View Post
BW motto- If it ain't broke, break it. If it is broke, take it away.

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kitsinni
06.29.2012 , 08:04 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Twor View Post
Sorc can't cleanse our dots though Its Techdamage, scoundrels and commandos can.
I guess I was wrong on that one.
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