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Its time to nerf Vanguards and Powertechs

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Its time to nerf Vanguards and Powertechs

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ATango
06.29.2012 , 06:12 AM | #151
Assault Plastique
Incendiary Round
Ion Pulse
Stockstrike
High Impact Bolt
Hammer Shot

These are the basic abilities most AS VG's use and this doesn't cover the cc abilities and offensive and defensive abilities.

Stop saying they are a 3 button class. Just makes you look stupid.
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Twor
06.29.2012 , 06:18 AM | #152
Quote: Originally Posted by ATango View Post
Assault Plastique
Incendiary Round
Ion Pulse
Stockstrike
High Impact Bolt
Hammer Shot

These are the basic abilities most AS VG's use and this doesn't cover the cc abilities and offensive and defensive abilities.

Stop saying they are a 3 button class. Just makes you look stupid.
If you'd want to go further for the rotation that everyone is complaining about you also use battlefocus, reserve enegry cell (infront of the IM or you WILL have ammo problems) and the expertise adrenal. This is just the basic rotation that everyone complains, as you said leaving out aoe, def abilities etc.

In theory we CAN just spam ip and hip(if we are in 10m) but we will run out of ammo and do laughable damage.

*edit* And yes he named our default attack. Which we spam quite a lot to manage heat/ammo before someone asks
Quote: Originally Posted by fungihoujo View Post
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AppleRedX
06.29.2012 , 06:32 AM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by Zorcha View Post
Oh so because a class is grossly overpowered we now have to focus them down to counter how unbalanced they are instead?

Your logic fails, big time
NO. You should use focus fire in general because this is the teamplay mechanic that separates the good players from the terribads.

L2P
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kitsinni
06.29.2012 , 06:39 AM | #154
If a powertech kills you, it happens that is the one thing a powertech has goign for them is they can kill a single oppenent, if you can't kill a powertech it is time to unsub there is almost no easier class to kill.
Okin

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Silwyth
06.29.2012 , 06:40 AM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by RickyChavez View Post
Theres two powertechs on the other team in the second part of my pvp video that starts at 12:50. If you go to the end of the video you can see he did 818k damage. 74 kills and 2 deaths.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq3uO...ailpage#t=770s
This video illustrates perfectly that all this crying is a learn to play issue and no nerfs are needed. You sat there and face tanked 3 dps all game while your own team was not taunting/peeling for your healers. Hell, your tank didn't even start rotating guard until the game was half over.

Edit: Also, lol@ the idiot at the end claiming PTs were buffed.

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Roiz
06.29.2012 , 06:55 AM | #156
PT is by far the easiest class to play and at the same time the most OP. Every child can top dmg meters by playing a pt, you can be keyboard turner and clicker and do well on PT. PT is very macros friendly class you know what some PT players are doing - they use programmable keyboards, macros the main PT attacks and start macros on repetitive circle. All they do is to move only while keyboard automatically spam attacks. In PT you don't need to think which attack to use, it is the matter of cooldown only.

It would be nice if PT will be put on the ground from the skies.

You know have all abilities ranged, instant with full armor penetration is way too much. PT needs reduction in range on all its abilities from 30 meters to 10 meters. Many PT players told that PT is not a ranged class and this is fine to reduce PT range on railshot, inc missile and thermal detonator to 10 meters. Also armor penetration from railshot is good to have at realistic numbers let's say 20% is fine and is enought. With that changes PT will fit it's place well enough.

Grapple actually is a tank ability, it is ok to put it as a talent to tanking three. If you play dps PT with reduced range as described above and without grapple you actually need to think and l2p rather than faceroll everything using mouse for movement only with auto pressed attacks.
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Twor
06.29.2012 , 06:58 AM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by Roiz View Post
PT is by far the easiest class to play and at the same time the most OP. Every child can top dmg meters by playing a pt, you can be keyboard turner and clicker and do well on PT. PT is very macros friendly class you know what some PT players are doing - they use programmable keyboards, macros the main PT attacks and start macros on repetitive circle. All they do is to move only while keyboard automatically spam attacks. In PT you don't need to think which attack to use, it is the matter of cooldown only.

It would be nice if PT will be put on the ground from the skies.

You know have all abilities ranged, instant with full armor penetration is way too much. PT needs reduction in range on all its abilities from 30 meters to 10 meters. Many PT players told that PT is not a ranged class and this is fine to reduce PT range on railshot, inc missile and thermal detonator to 10 meters. Also armor penetration from railshot is good to have at realistic numbers let's say 20% is fine and is enought. With that changes PT will fit it's place well enough.

Grapple actually is a tank ability, it is ok to put it as a talent to tanking three. If you play dps PT with reduced range as described above and without grapple you actually need to think and l2p rather than faceroll everything.
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No problem, but than we need a gap closer that is on a 15sec CD and not affected by resolve. Like all other non stealth close range classes have without needing to spend talent points.
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warultima
06.29.2012 , 07:01 AM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by Twor View Post
No problem, but than we need a gap closer that is on a 15sec CD and not affected by resolve. Like all other non stealth close range classes have without needing to spend talent points.
Then at the same time all those none stealth close range classes dont gib someone for 5k regardless of their armor rating from 30m away.

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Twor
06.29.2012 , 07:04 AM | #159
Quote: Originally Posted by warultima View Post
Then at the same time all those none stealth close range classes dont gib someone for 5k regardless of their armor rating from 30m away.
*yawn* go back a few pages and read the whole thread.
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warultima
06.29.2012 , 07:17 AM | #160
Quote: Originally Posted by Twor View Post
*yawn* go back a few pages and read the whole thread.
I did, I just replied to you to show how much of a hypocrate you are.
And PT is so easy to play to score that kind of number and if you disagrees... then well it explains all your posts clearly.