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Really "Warzone Medpacks" Still in the game?

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Really "Warzone Medpacks" Still in the game?

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Helig
06.28.2012 , 12:20 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Swidgin View Post
Ok, This is going no where fast.

Thanks for your responses.

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RogueNights
06.28.2012 , 12:21 PM | #52
I completely support the roll it plays in wz a moderate self heal is needed, maybe a longer cd is necessary tho. I will say i find it incredibly annoying that its the best medpack and not reusable.. for some reason whenever i have to stock up on consumables i just feel angry...

I think healers need it. In my experience as a tankasin, i feel healers have gotten easier and easier to kill both from updates and from me learning how to interrupt them better. W/ full cd a solo healer should be able to survive a rotation from a non dps class.

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Astarica
06.28.2012 , 12:27 PM | #53
The problem with WZ consumable is that it is a tedious process to get them all. Unless you're at a point where you don't care about gear anymore you basically have to play 1 game to just gather the comms to buy them for every game you use them actively.

This also creates a further imbalance for the guys who don't care about gear, who presumably already have a significant gear advantage (that's why they don't care about gear, because they have it all).

While having these consumables do create an interesting dynamic in WZ, their availabilty is too restricted and it just becomes a have versus have not issue.

I'd have no problem if they're made into legacy abilities that are activated once every 5 minutes or longer while in WZs, as long as the credit cost is reasonable (i.e. not on par with legacy jet pack).

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Pistols
06.28.2012 , 12:32 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Helig View Post
P.S. Bad players complain, good players adapt.
Has nothing to do with anything in this thread.

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DimeStax
06.28.2012 , 12:33 PM | #55
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CharterMonkKent
06.28.2012 , 12:33 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Swidgin View Post
Come on BW. I run rateds. Get this Cheap heal out of there please.

Keep it if you want but NOT in rated matches!

Clean it up. No more junk please!

/sign this for me & you. Help me HELP you.

EDIT: I seem to be losing some people so I will try to exsplain this better.

I understand the intent of the "War Zone Medpack" Increase uptime on a zerg and help single targets escape a close encounter. This DOES add skill to the game and is needed in high level PVP.

My issue is in practice it is a OP tool that with the short CD and the fact that it scales of Higher HP players > then DPS players is not working as intended. It has become to strong for healers and tanks.

I hope this helps and I am sorry for any confusion.

Thank you.
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DimeStax
06.28.2012 , 12:36 PM | #57
There shouldn't be WZ Healing Adrenals in the game.

Damage reduction is ok, but not a 35% heal. First of all, some of the people who are playing Ranked Warzones are completely geared out and are mostly doing the Ranked Warzones to optimize gear, for the rating, or just for fun. However, most of the playerbase is still gearing up War Hero gear. This creates a problem because the most efficient way to buy Warzone Adrenals is fromthe PvP vendor for 10 warzone comms and not with credits, so by purchasing Warzone Adrenals with Warzone Coms just so you can stay competitive, you hurt the speed at which you gear up. So the people still gearing up right now have to choose: Do I buy warzone adrenals to stay competitive but slow the rate at which I can get better gear, or do I not buy the Warzone Adrenals and just focus on gearing up? The people who already have the gear and buy the Adrenals clearly have a huge advantage in the fact that they're either going to out gear you, or "out-potion" you because a 35% heal is a HUGE game-changer for any class.

BW made a huge push to eliminate on demand burst damage in PvP by changing relics and adrenals in PvP, however an on-demand clicky 35% heal every 1.5 minutes is probably ruining PvP a lot worse than the relics and adrenals were
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CharterMonkKent
06.28.2012 , 12:39 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Pistols View Post
Has nothing to do with anything in this thread.
I agree that it doesn't, However people that complain about things like this make me enjoy the forums (but I visit forums mostly to help, where I can). It's a game. Waa Waa lag, Waa Waa crits, Waa Waa nerf. Now Waa Waa heal? I quite enjoy
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Pistols
06.28.2012 , 12:46 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by CharterMonkKent View Post
I agree that it doesn't, However people that complain about things like this make me enjoy the forums (but I visit forums mostly to help, where I can). It's a game. Waa Waa lag, Waa Waa crits, Waa Waa nerf. Now Waa Waa heal? I quite enjoy
Usually those who don't compete at the maximum level of PvP, call these types of threads Waa Waa, due to them not understanding the nature of the issue. I quite enjoy those types myself.

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Thundernuts
06.28.2012 , 12:48 PM | #60
I honestly think the OP got rolled by someone in a wz and is butt hurt about it, lol. There is no reason to remove those from any wz. You can only use them once a fight, so the CD is kind of moot. Sure they favor tanks, who 1. Are supposed to be hard to kill and 2. Are the furthest thing from overpowered in pvp. This is the same old "I wanna kill stuff fast and if I can't it's cheating or BS."
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