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Bioware planning a third faction?

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Bioware planning a third faction?

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Muskaan
06.25.2012 , 01:48 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by VulcanLogic View Post
If I were designing a third faction, and I'm not, it wouldn't be the Hutts. It'd be the Mandalorians. They do have the power to challenge the Republic or the Empire militarily, or at the the very least, play one side off against the other. I'd design them like one of the more prominent WoW factions (Argent Dawn/Crusade or Cenarian Circle/Expedition), and with proper faction rep, to be obtained through a long term story driven quest, the player would be able to queue PvP with that faction rather than their own faction, for the purposes of a three-way PvP warzone. Later, an expansion might allow character creation of a full fledged faction member from level, with a proper legacy requirement.
A Mandalorian faction would be interesting. Though most of the Mandalorians were decimated by the great Mandalorian wars.
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06.25.2012 , 02:01 PM | #62
I think they are planning on it. Because I read in some leaks that a Hutt homeworld fully questable planet called "Varl" is coming out close to Makeb to. Varl is the ACTUAL Hutt homeworld. It would make sense to fight for the Hutt Cartel and not give a damn for the Republic or Empire though. Here's to hoping they do it.
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Spectus
06.25.2012 , 02:04 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by VulcanLogic View Post
If I were designing a third faction, and I'm not, it wouldn't be the Hutts. It'd be the Mandalorians. They do have the power to challenge the Republic or the Empire militarily, or at the the very least, play one side off against the other. I'd design them like one of the more prominent WoW factions (Argent Dawn/Crusade or Cenarian Circle/Expedition), and with proper faction rep, to be obtained through a long term story driven quest, the player would be able to queue PvP with that faction rather than their own faction, for the purposes of a three-way PvP warzone. Later, an expansion might allow character creation of a full fledged faction member from level, with a proper legacy requirement.
Correction: the Mandalorians DID have the power to challenge the Republic or Empire militarily. At this point in the Old Republic's lore, though, they are essentially wiped out as a true faction. Revan and Malek saw to that with the Mandalorian War prior to the events of KOTOR, and the Mandalorian faction is currently a sliver of its former self, with individual clans essentially falling back to life as mercenaries in service of larger, more powerful groups, or individually simply freelancing as guns-for-hire.

I would nominate an "Underworld" faction as this game's third faction, comprised of the following groups of NPCs:
  • The Bothan SpyNet
  • The Hutts (as the prime movers in the Outer Rim)
  • The Mandalorian Remnant
  • Various information brokers, spice traders, and crime lords and cartels

Bounty Hunters and Smugglers would be obvious choices for player-character classes. If a third faction were introduced, I would suggest creating a mechanism in which existing BH's and Smugglers would be given the choice to remain within their Republic or Imperial factions, or to switch allegiance to the Underworld Faction. I would also introduce an Imperial Stormtrooper class, simply because the Empire needs its Stormtroopers, while the Republic would also be allowed to recruit its own Bounty Hunters-type character class: the Mercenary.

And I would flesh out the Underworld faction with a new pair of Force-Sensitives: the Wild Force Wielders. Hunted by the Empire, yet unwilling to submit to the asceticism of the Jedi Order, they often find themselves shunned within the Republic due to their "special" talents, which some attempt to conceal while others abuse them freely. This rootless existence makes life a dangerous gamble for them. On the one hand, finding suitable tutors for the furtherence of their talents presents a formidable challenge, while on the other, they are at great risk if they confide about their talents to the wrong person.
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Spectus
06.25.2012 , 02:10 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by VanGoethe View Post
I don't want to burst any bubbles, but they've been using the hutts as neutral enemy that both the republic and empire can fight in things like Karagga's Palace, and as a lore reason that they're making GTNs cross-faction. I'm pretty sure it's not to set up a third faction. If they made a Hutt faction, what would they do when those characters went to do things like KP?

I think the Hutts are a convenient group that can be adversaries for both factions. That being said, there's plenty of lore reason to make Empire enemies for both factions (which they certainly do in the flashpoints, and I think soon will in the next Operation). So I guess it's a possibility. But I don't think that's what they're setting up.
If the Hutts are folded into a third faction, that would make Karagga's Palace even more of a target for both Empire and Republic.
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daweee
06.25.2012 , 02:10 PM | #65
Sadly, a third faction will NEVER happened, you guys are forgetting about Mr. George Lucas.

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06.25.2012 , 02:17 PM | #66
The only real way would be to tie it to legacy system, unless of course they do it for the first payed xpac.
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llesna
06.25.2012 , 03:09 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Spectus View Post
Why can't we just accept the Star Wars IP for what IT is: one of this world's few (relatively) family-friendly IPs?
I stopped reading your point when I got to this.

LGBT content IS family-friendly. If you want people to believe that somehow it's improper for children or families to acknowledge that LGBT issues and people exist, then you are not promoting family-friendly values but rather a close-minded and narrow view of the world.

In other words, it seems like you are suggesting that there is a "right" way (a "no gays-allowed family-friendly way") to live one's life and that anything else is somehow wrong or perverted. This is wrong and goes against human rights to freedom of sexuality.

In any case, your argument is like a glass house: easily shattered. In this game, you can commit all kinds of attrocities (including genocide) and generally commit acts which might not be considered family-friendly. In fact, even the good guys frequently kill people. Furthermore, you can engage in relationships with other members of the opposite gender! Won't somebody think of the children!

Putting same gender romances into the game will not make this game unsuitable for families or children, assuming you are okay with your children seeing quite a lot of violence and death. Actually, if you're okay with your children spewing death but you don't want them to deal with issues of genuine sexuality, then that's quite disturbing.

I don't mean this to be an attack on you, but please rethink your points as they're incredibly misguided and quite prejudist against the LGBT community.

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Jonoku
06.25.2012 , 03:19 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by daweee View Post
Sadly, a third faction will NEVER happened, you guys are forgetting about Mr. George Lucas.
Mr. George Lucas is the reason for Mandolorians, Hutt Cartels, Pirates, Star wars gangs. how can we forget, which supports the reason of a third faction.

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Tsillah
06.25.2012 , 03:35 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by xandax View Post
If they make a 'playable third faction' it'll be akin to monster play in LOTOR:O and not in the manner that many seem to hope for.
And that's still a pretty huge if.
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TKMaster
06.25.2012 , 03:37 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Holden_Dissent View Post
I don't know the Star Wars lore enough. Who would even make for a 3rd faction? What other conflict? Ewoks vs Republic vs Empire?
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