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Am I the only one NOT using Legacy?

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Am I the only one NOT using Legacy?

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DarthOvertone
06.25.2012 , 02:37 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by -Dench View Post
I've ignored Legacy as much as I can.

Talk about a dud.
Ya. The only Legacy stuff that I have is sort of passive unlocked stuff that I didn't even realize I unlocked. Haven't paid for a thing and don't care to really.

Doesn't help that I have two different legacies on two separate servers. Legacy should really be tied to Account, not to Server. Anyway, whatever...
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Arlbo_Nabbins
06.25.2012 , 02:38 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Celebrus View Post
In a lot of MMOs you work for gear, for achievements, for reputation, for dominance.

In SWToR. You work for mailboxes and emotes.

I can see why the ever rampant star wars crowd is so happy and why the rest of the world is face palming.
Wrong, in SWTOR you work for gear, for achievements, for reputation, for dominance. You get mail boxes and emotes as a bonus while you are doing the first set, much as you can in other MMOs.

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Darth_Victus
06.25.2012 , 02:42 PM | #43
Personally, I don't care about the Legacy stuff. Especially when prior to 1.2 they lead players to believe that you either got the benefit from getting to a certain legacy level, or had the option to buy it if you had the cash. Obviously they back stepped on that for what ever reason and now players have to be the legacy level AND purchase the perk.

Only stuff I do use is the shared class buffs. Really only thing worth while in my opinion. (Yes, rocket boots are cool and all, but I am not wasting 2 million for a pair of shoes.)

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Pytviper
06.25.2012 , 02:49 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Victus View Post
Personally, I don't care about the Legacy stuff. Especially when prior to 1.2 they lead players to believe that you either got the benefit from getting to a certain legacy level, or had the option to buy it if you had the cash. Obviously they back stepped on that for what ever reason and now players have to be the legacy level AND purchase the perk.

Only stuff I do use is the shared class buffs. Really only thing worth while in my opinion. (Yes, rocket boots are cool and all, but I am not wasting 2 million for a pair of shoes.)
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Malastare
06.25.2012 , 03:00 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by DPCummerbund View Post
Like I said earlier, I see very little reason to pick up legacy at all. It makes me give up something I want (any semblance of sticking to lore and my own character's story) to give up something I don't want (buffs I don't want, a family tree I don't want, an XP bonus I don't want, and items I don't want).
Okay, first: You're free to play however you want. Don't let anyone force you to change because of what they want.

That said, you're giving up standard game mechanics (presence buffs, race unlocks, cooldown reductions, etc) because there are a small number of strictly optional abilities that might infect your characters? I'm a bigger fan of the lore (and adhering to it) than the vast majority around here, and I've been playing RPGs for around 15 years. I don't plan on using some of the odd legacy abilities (because they do feel out-of-place), but if you think that having a smuggler who can Force Choke is way less believable than a shuttle that manages to extract you from almost anywhere: Barren wasteland? Yup. Warehouse? Yup. Enemy fortification? Yup. Remote Ice Cave? Sure. Vault? Yup. Shuttle "Tower" on Quesh? No, sorry, you'll have to suicide then we'll pick you up.

I'm not trying to judge you, but it seems odd that you are willing to deny yourself a dozen viable game mechanics meant to reward you for playing, because you feel you don't think you have the willpower to... deny yourself game mechanics.

Do you use Quick Travel? Do you use the Emergency Fleet Pass? Those don't really mesh with lore (or physics, really). What about that Speeder in your pocket? Or the half-dozen sets of armor you're carrying on your back? Or the jugs of kolto that healers keep around? There are dozens of abilities in the game that are either silly when applied to realism (and therefore lore) or directly opposed to the spirit of the lore. Do you avoid all of them? If so, then why do you care about avoiding a couple more?

Again: Play however you like. I just don't see why you couldn't use the same willpower it takes to avoid setting up a Legacy to avoid using the non-Lore legacy features... and get all the Lore-friendly benefits.

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MatronAdena
06.25.2012 , 03:01 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthOvertone View Post
Ya. The only Legacy stuff that I have is sort of passive unlocked stuff that I didn't even realize I unlocked. Haven't paid for a thing and don't care to really.

Doesn't help that I have two different legacies on two separate servers. Legacy should really be tied to Account, not to Server. Anyway, whatever...
the unlocks too I forgot those

As for the mail thing.. okay it may be different now but up until the legacy was launched you could NOT send things cross faction, but at that point I had 2 50's already and a legacy established so when it went over It was stated as a legacy perk.

Although It may limit what you can send slightly...and Im pretty sure that means legacy gear over anything else

right now legacy is still more " optional" than it is, with players ignoring it missing out on a few things, legacy perks like you see in 1.3 like the xp boosts, or being able to get a speeder at level 10, basically quality of life things or making leveling more appealing for alts, faster cool downs on fleet passes and the likes etc.

Im not sure if species unlocks ( Im talking using credits as opposed to natural unlock) is available without a legacy to initiate it but I'm going to assume it is. Really you just have to actually look at the legacy skills and such and see whats out there to fully know everything that is there ( with a few hidden requirements etc)

but the basic thing is the direction it's going more or less says " if you ignore the legacy completely, your going to find yourself out competed and missing out on content, gears, potential companions, and as hinted they would like to be able to have it that in a story setting you can run into and interact with other characters from your legacy)

I can only speculate on this really, Legacy is their ace card at the moment from a marketing standpoint so you really cant dismiss the idea that not using it will screw you over eventually.

Now, Lets look at getting HK: we know it requires you to have characters on both factions to actually get him as a companion. what we Don't know is if that means " both factions and in your legacy- because it's assumed everyone ( and or the vast majority ) uses legacy- so without even thinking anything of it you need that legacy bond for the whole thing to work ( if they have said more onto the whole thing I've missed it)


I'm sympathetic about the whole thing with players not wanting to touch it because it screws with their head cannon and what they are having fun with... but at the same time they need to have selling points as a business and keep pushing things about constantly to make it appealing to a broader mass, and in doing that players honestly run into the problems of " adapt or extinction" points will come across that it will be harder to get involved with game events or gear, or skills, etc etc because they wont play by the companies design, and that may start to have major impacts on their ability to remain caught up in the long run.


BAH I did not mean for that to get long.... but the moral of the story is: ignore it if you want, yes your missing things no matter how you want to look at it, you can choose to ignore some things like the heroic moments completely but if them being even in your power list is upsetting- hey thats your thing- but also understand that IF and again Im just speculating based on a trend in marketing I see - that ignoring it bites you in the arse then thats what happens. I hope it wont come to that, but my faith is not the greatest when it comes to shoehorning features ( as an industry as a whole, not so much an individual company)


and yes I'm a life breather when it comes to RP ( that being putting so much into characters that they become separate entities that I just translate for.. giving them a soul of their own separate from mine and letting them go their own way... Comes from writing and 25 some years of roleplaying so again Im more than sympathetic
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Baconmonster
06.25.2012 , 04:57 PM | #47
Legacy adds very little of actual value and is just a credit sink. Sorry, none of the ship upgrades are worth it in the least and being able to toss three other buffs on myself is a massive waste of time I could have spent making friends with people that play the class that has the buff. Calling anything from Legacy a Quality of Life Benefit is being generous considering the amount of money you're going to grind to get it. It's not cost effective for the minuscule benefit it gives.

My personal opinion on the topic aside, by all means enjoy it for whatever you believe it gives you. I will firmly stand my ground and not buy a single Legacy benefit at their current pricing, it is a total waste of time and money that you could be investing in a game economy that is pathetic and still has no legs.

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Dibdabs
06.25.2012 , 05:02 PM | #48
The Legacy System is a total fail. There's nothing in there I would bother to pay to unlock.

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Eillack
06.25.2012 , 05:05 PM | #49
LEgacy is just some cool naming in the end....the overall system is just pointless and a credit sink. Such a horrible waste.

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Deyjarl
06.25.2012 , 05:07 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by DPCummerbund View Post
And am I the only person out there NOT using legacy?
Not a ton of situations to use the current legacy rewards since the big ability rewards are all tied to the Heroic Ability timer.

The next round has stuff I'm more likely to use.
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