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So Alderaan on PVE servers are now PVP?
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Nyla
06.25.2012 , 06:45 AM | #41
I haven't seen it mentioned but in 1.3 you won't get flagged for PvP using your class buff on a flagged player.

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JeramieCrowe
06.25.2012 , 07:34 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by HeavensAgent View Post
There is nothing to fix. Healing a flagged ally is supposed to flag you.
Actually, you shouldn't be able to heal a flagged ally at all if you're not. This subject has been covered too many times in several MMOs to debate this, and the best way that made the most people happy is to not be able to do it at all unless you voluntarily go PvP flagged, too.
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Valkirus
06.25.2012 , 07:45 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Actually, you shouldn't be able to heal a flagged ally at all if you're not. This subject has been covered too many times in several MMOs to debate this, and the best way that made the most people happy is to not be able to do it at all unless you voluntarily go PvP flagged, too.
I agree with this. Just plain silly for MMO's to have a player accidently flag themselves PVP. There should not be anyway you can. And if it is a bug, they need to address it right away, as it can ruin a player's playing experence and that should be a top issues for them to fix. And those exploiting such a bug on purpose, should be banned playing the game for 30 days.
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MoltenRog
06.25.2012 , 07:52 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
Yeah....the same type one which flags you in WoW too. Totally bad design on the developers side.
You best advise the devolopers on how to fix this.

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HeavensAgent
06.25.2012 , 07:57 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Actually, you shouldn't be able to heal a flagged ally at all if you're not. This subject has been covered too many times in several MMOs to debate this, and the best way that made the most people happy is to not be able to do it at all unless you voluntarily go PvP flagged, too.
I agree. That's why I advocate a general setting toggle.
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Nyla
06.25.2012 , 07:57 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
I agree with this. Just plain silly for MMO's to have a player accidently flag themselves PVP. There should not be anyway you can. And if it is a bug, they need to address it right away, as it can ruin a player's playing experence and that should be a top issues for them to fix. And those exploiting such a bug on purpose, should be banned playing the game for 30 days.
While I agree with that implementation, I still find it a bit funny how you word your answer.

Someone choose to heal or buff another player, don't check if he's flagged and it's an accident ? not really.

But yes, the impossibilty to do it would fix the problem for the people not paying attention.

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deusBAAL
06.25.2012 , 07:58 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by FITorion View Post
I blame both.

If i haven't clicked "yes" on a "Do you want to be flagged for PvP?" pop up then I shouldn't get flagged for PvP ever.
Totally THIS!
Funny how PVP folks strive to become the best PK, while PVE folks know that PKs are just really really bad players.

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DbDBear
06.25.2012 , 08:26 AM | #48
Wow!
I myself have never played an MMO on a PvE Server and had no idea that you could flag yourself for World PvP. I really do not understand why they would make it that way. I thought that if you like World PvP then you just roll on a PvP Server.
After reading the thread I am still a bit unclear as to it being an exploit abused or just a case of Buffing or healing a flagged player.
If it is an exploit that is being used then I think that anyone that is lame enough to exploit PvP on a PvE server has to be a real moron who could not cut it on a PvP Server. After they are found to be exploiting they need to be transferred to a PvP server with a special tag so that the real PvPers can treat him/her like they do a Pedophile in Prison!
If it is a case of buffing or healing a player flagged for PvP then shame on you! Any buff or heal that would potentially change the outcome of World PvP makes you an active participant in the PvP and you SHOULD get flagged. How bad would it suck to be fighting someone in World PvP and have them buffed and being healed by a player that was un-killable? I think that would be MORE of an exploit!
Just my opinion but if your on a PvE server I think there should be no PvP except in WZs that you join.

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Valkirus
06.25.2012 , 08:32 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by MoltenRog View Post
You best advise the devolopers on how to fix this.
They should read these posts in this thread, or atleast those who do with the company can pass the word along. And we have allready suggested how to fix it.
Trust is something which is earned.

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Valkirus
06.25.2012 , 08:33 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by DbDBear View Post
Wow!
I myself have never played an MMO on a PvE Server and had no idea that you could flag yourself for World PvP. I really do not understand why they would make it that way. I thought that if you like World PvP then you just roll on a PvP Server.
After reading the thread I am still a bit unclear as to it being an exploit abused or just a case of Buffing or healing a flagged player.
If it is an exploit that is being used then I think that anyone that is lame enough to exploit PvP on a PvE server has to be a real moron who could not cut it on a PvP Server. After they are found to be exploiting they need to be transferred to a PvP server with a special tag so that the real PvPers can treat him/her like they do a Pedophile in Prison!
If it is a case of buffing or healing a player flagged for PvP then shame on you! Any buff or heal that would potentially change the outcome of World PvP makes you an active participant in the PvP and you SHOULD get flagged. How bad would it suck to be fighting someone in World PvP and have them buffed and being healed by a player that was un-killable? I think that would be MORE of an exploit!
Just my opinion but if your on a PvE server I think there should be no PvP except in WZs that you join.
I fully support this post. Well said!
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