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10 Black Hole Commendations Per Day Is A Little Much, No?

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10 Black Hole Commendations Per Day Is A Little Much, No?

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thomasmeadows
06.25.2012 , 01:01 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Daeada View Post
SM Eternity Vault - 1x/week - 5 Comms
SM Karagga's Palace - 1x/week - 5 Comms
HM Random FP - 7x/week - 35 Comms
Black Hole weekly in Corellia - 6 Comms

Without stepping foot into Explosive Conflict, that's 51 Comms/week.

If you do Raid EC:

Story Mode:
2 Comms/boss - x4: 8 Comms
4 Comms/box - x3: 12 Comms
Galactic Crisis Weekly: 8 Comms.

Total so far: 79 Comms/week.

Add in Hard mode:

4 Comms/boss - x4: 16 Comms
4 Comms/chest - x3: 12 Comms

Total: 107 Comms/week.

Add in other things like Rakghoul Conflicts weekly (8), Nightmare Pilgrim World Boss (Personally not sure.), and KP HM (12 for full run, I think?) runs for the overachievers, and you have 127 + whatever Nightmare Pilgrim drops each week.


TL,DR: Even doing daily HM plus both of the SM raids, you still are only getting about 1/3 of the potential Comms/week.
HM flashpoints are DAILY COMMS!!!!
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Divona
06.25.2012 , 01:05 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by VulcanLogic View Post
Wouldn't worry too much about it. After all, in 1.4, all of your gear will be vendor/RE bait as you'll be leveling up to 55.
This.

I think OP dont understand Bioware and their long term plans. Maintaining subs and not loosing more is very important if this game wants to stay away from F2P by end of year. Also when im looking around fleet i see less than 1% players have campain gear pieces and maybe around 5% tops have BH geared fully. Rest have ether some odd peices or not at all. Im sure bioware wasnt happy how BH gearing progressed in live game and changed it in patch 1.3

You can argue how long you want but majority players who cant cut denova in even story mode, will never gear up BH before level cap raises. Think out of box for a moment and dont be such ignorant and selfish. People never get better loot if they cant get Denova HM or story mode, but at least they can get without set bonus version of gear. Mainhand and many other things comes only doing OPS.
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Fornix
06.25.2012 , 01:06 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Criosdh View Post
Whoa whoa whoa. Even if it was actually 90 a week like someone previously said, if that takes 2 months to get the gear, I mean, holy smokes people. That's doing it every single day. Sounds like someone needs to get a job and a few other things to do with their life other than crying about how 60 consecutive days of anything is easy mode for an MMO.
Quote: Originally Posted by JonathanCP View Post
IIUC, you CANNOT get 10 BH commendations a day.
The tier1 and tier 2 HM flashpoints rewards are shared. So that makes 5 BH commendations a day max for a random HM flashpoint.
Then you have 5 BH commendations for Storymode ops. And unless I'm mistaken, weekly lockouts for storymode operation are still there.
That, and that. 5 comms for the daily dun, 7 days a week; coming down to 35. 2 ops in story mode, per week, coming down to an additional 10. That's not even 90 a week, but just 45 a week. Total black hole commendations required? 495

In other words, 11 weeks required to get all the pieces for those doing just daily HM's and story mode ops per week. And that is, if you even get around to playing every day. By the time people will have their black hole gear, the game will already have been patched again and raiders are running around in the next tier gear.
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Daeada
06.25.2012 , 01:10 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by thomasmeadows View Post
HM flashpoints are DAILY COMMS!!!!
You sure about that? http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/...6/lfgtool2.jpg

Has this changed (aside from EC being removed, and LI no longer being default)?
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thomasmeadows
06.25.2012 , 01:18 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Daeada View Post
You sure about that? http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/...6/lfgtool2.jpg

Has this changed (aside from EC being removed, and LI no longer being default)?
well nm, that is a little excessive then...

I was just going by what was written in the story.
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06.25.2012 , 01:37 AM | #76
I was wondering when this topic would come up. The equivalent to "Sprint at level 1 will ruin the game!" that was posted a few days before 1.2.

You can not make everyone happy. Bioware please don't listen to the topic creator he doesn't speak for anyone but himself. If he wants to play a game that takes years to get all your gear, he can go play Final Fantasy XI or something. I think you guys are on the right track by allowing black hole gear to be more accessible.
Some people can't raid due to time constraints, don't have a raiding guild, and that shouldn't impede their gear progression. kudos Bioware.
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Daeada
06.25.2012 , 01:46 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Tatami View Post
I was wondering when this topic would come up. The equivalent to "Sprint at level 1 will ruin the game!" that was posted a few days before 1.2.

You can not make everyone happy. Bioware please don't listen to the topic creator he doesn't speak for anyone but himself. If he wants to play a game that takes years to get all your gear, he can go play Final Fantasy XI or something. I think you guys are on the right track by allowing black hole gear to be more accessible.
Some people can't raid due to time constraints, don't have a raiding guild, and that shouldn't impede their gear progression. kudos Bioware.
Agreed. If you step back and look at it, it's really quite well balanced:

Solo + LFG Tool Only = ~45/week
Casual Raiders (SM EC + HM KP) = ~90/week
Hardcore Raiders = ~130/week

So the hardcore get their stuff roughly 1.5x times faster than the casual raiders, and 3x faster than the non-raiders.
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bigbramble
06.25.2012 , 02:07 AM | #78
How is it too much? To get a full set of black hole gear you need 495 tokens which is 80+ days at this rate. That's only if you are mad enough to do it every single day without a break. By the time you have collected the set there will probably be new content available. Stop moaning, it's fine.

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NoxiousAlby
06.25.2012 , 02:19 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by zappuslol View Post
Not sure if you guys understand, but its actually ~45 black hole comms per week, not 90. You can only do 1 raid lockout per week so queueing for it daily will be no good. 2 raids per week = 10 comms per week. Much better than the previous setup of 5 comms per week.

Overall 45 comms will give the dedicated players who take their time to do flashpoints on daily basis a piece of gear every 2 weeks, which completes the next to best set of gear in about 3 months. I don't see how this is the end of the world. Besides in those 3 months bioware might come out with a new raid patch and more gear.

Just chill and let bioware do their thing.
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Ewgal
06.25.2012 , 02:55 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by bigbramble View Post
How is it too much? To get a full set of black hole gear you need 495 tokens which is 80+ days at this rate. That's only if you are mad enough to do it every single day without a break. By the time you have collected the set there will probably be new content available. Stop moaning, it's fine.
Bigbramble you are the fountain of Wisdom in this topic. Reality is that the casuals will only do the dailies a few times a week and will do stuff like PvP or crafting to fill their time. In 80 days time there will still be lvl 50 players slowly gearing up through dailies in BH gear. The hardcore have no need to fear them.
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