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Bloberts
06.24.2012 , 10:11 PM | #131
I'm from the Swiftsure. The Bastion is better.

I'm not sure what Casey is trying to get at by being overdramatic. All I saw was butthurt and hardly any valid commentary.

Overdramatic. Overanalitical. Over hypes everything.

Does this guy have a realistic bone in his body?

Play what YOU think is fun people.
SWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG

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Tmanarl
06.24.2012 , 10:36 PM | #132
I took a break from wandering around Dagobah to watch this clip. Maybe this guy will take advantage of the "Free to 15" offer BW is starting next month. Then he can actually play the game.

Now back to wandering....
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Durasturan
06.25.2012 , 12:53 AM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by WhiteStriker View Post
Why do people care so much about the opinion of a "reviewer" who may or may not have so-called "credibility"? If you like the game, then keep playing; if you don't like the game, then no one is forcing you to stay. Everyone has an opinion which we're all entitled to.

While I agree with him that Bioware has, in the past, not been very vocal with the community, this was actually one of the few instances where they were very vocal with the community--he picked a really bad example on which to base his point. They had a whole page explaining what was going to happen, how it was going to happen, and when it was going to happen, a week before it happened. I personally, and many others I talked to as well, had a very positive experience with my transfer. That said, I'm sure there were a minority of people who were not happy with the transfers, and someone of a biased opinion, or someone who wants to start drama, is going to focus on that to try and sway opinions--the best form of propaganda is distorted facts. As for balance issues, PvP may be a little harder now, but at least I have PvP queues instead of waiting 30+ minutes for the queue to pop. I'm excited for patch 1.3 and I still enjoy playing this game.

All of the rest of the reviewers points I could not relate to at all.

Maybe I'm biased (I'm sure I am), but I really found that guy's jokes against the game to be unprofessional (the Dagobah joke and the "only 7 people still playing" joke). I get it's an exaggeration, but it's flat out silly. While it may not be statistically relevant, I ran into several re-subscribers on my server that past weekend, so the population can't be too bad (granted I get that it went down by 400,000 over the last 4 months or so). The game's going to get bad PR because people need something to bash; if Bioware continues fixing things and releasing new content, it's going to make it harder to bash this game, especially if subscriber numbers start coming back up.
It's called Confirmation Bias and it's actually a really interesting bit of psychology. Basically people pick and choose to see and believe things which fit snuggly into their preconceived notions about how the world works. So people see something in the media, if it fits with their world view they harp on it, about how this proves everything they've always known and they were right along etc etc etc. It can even make someone twist something to fit into their notions as well.

For example you take two people one pro mary jane and the other against and show them both the SAME article about how 50% of the country supports legalization, the person for will say "Look, half the country supports us we should legalize!" The other guy will say "only half the country supports legalization we should keep it illegal."

So people see this obviously biased and absurd article that so no name sell out with a degree in Film posted on some website and everyone upset with the game comes out in droves to harp about how true it is and tell us "they've known it all along."

Meanwhile the more reasonable people point out: "He said the forums were full of rage about transfers, but I loved transfers, all my friends loved em, and more people are resubbing BECAUSE of them and looking forward to 1.3. In fact he didn't point out a SINGLE example of rage on the forums, nor did he point to a SINGLE problem that occured during the transfers, in fact he made up a complete and obvious LIE (saying we haven't been given any information about them for weeks when we've received regular updates on a near DAILY basis...)"

Reasonable people get shouted down by the people with Confirmation Bias, reason and logic get cast to the wind, ragers rage, and thinkers think and players just keep on playing the game.

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Liquidacid
06.25.2012 , 01:04 AM | #134
I don't know why people care so much about these reviews.... no offence but anyone who plays games regularly has the same credentials as these 'professionals".... the articles are just one gamer's opinion... and it always goes the same way... those who agree with the reviewer's opinions praise him/her as having amazing incite and being non-biased and those who disagree with his/her opinion claim him to be an idiot...
"bibo ergo sum" ( I drink, therefore I am)

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maqlic
06.25.2012 , 01:12 AM | #135
Never heard of the guy nor the show so his oppinion means jack s*** to me

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spectreclees
06.25.2012 , 01:21 AM | #136
This just in: G4 is a trash network anymore. Don't watch it. Also, ICP was on this same episode. Couldn't take anything they said seriously.

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Liquidacid
06.25.2012 , 01:35 AM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by spectreclees View Post
This just in: G4 is a trash network anymore. Don't watch it. Also, ICP was on this same episode. Couldn't take anything they said seriously.
every time I turn on G4 there is never anything about gaming on... it's all reruns of Cops and Japaneses game shows
"bibo ergo sum" ( I drink, therefore I am)

Teamwork is essential; it gives the enemy other people to shoot at.

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Sathid
06.25.2012 , 02:32 AM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by jarjarloves View Post
just to be clear you believe a "PROFESSIONAL" review should start off with Insane Clown Possy?

First off if you think for one second that "professionals" will dictate the fate of MMOs you are completely lost. The PLAYERS will decide the face of MMOs the "faces of teh industry" as you put do nothing.

I hate to break it to you but bloggers, reviewers, and so called industry profesionals do not dictate what happens. WE DO.

There once was a time when a reviewer in a newspaper could make or break a film, but in the 1970s a movie called "Bonnie and Clyde" came out and it was universally HATED by the so called "industry profesionals" However the public LOVED it and it became one of the first blockbusters. It completely changed everything. Now reviewers have no power what so ever in deciding the fate of movies.
Reviewers didnt like the first Star Wars either,look what happened.

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Blackardin
06.25.2012 , 02:42 AM | #139
An armchair quarterback posting about what another armchair quarterback is parroting from other armchair quarterbacks.

Look, there are people that are doers, and there are those that like to do little more then talk about how to do it better.

Servers are full. We are having fun. LFG comes out tomorrow. I really don't care what some random guy on the internet is nitpicking about.
May the Schwartz be with you....

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jgelling
06.25.2012 , 03:00 AM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by Sathid View Post
Reviewers didnt like the first Star Wars either,look what happened.
Well there's something that's not true:

Roger Ebert called it an "out-of-the-body experience"
The NY Times called it "fun and funny" and a movie that the kids in George Lucas' first film (American Graffiti) "would break their necks to see"

I don't have time to look up every movie critic, but people that know what they're talking about usually recognize greatness when they see it. No one that mattered had any problem recognizing the original Star Wars as a great movie - and they weren't even paid to say that, at the time (unlike contemporary reviews).

That said, the guy from G4 is no Roger Ebert, but I think even he can see this game is maybe good, maybe just OK, but not great. You can tell because 10 years from now, no one will be amazed by how innovative the game was in its design, or how it changed the way we thought about, well, anything re: video games or MMOs. When the critics get it wrong (and they didn't with the original Star Wars. BTW) it's because they see something totally out of the box and hate it because of that.

This game is not out of the box - it lives and breathes and will die inside the box.
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