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So Alderaan on PVE servers are now PVP?

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So Alderaan on PVE servers are now PVP?

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ZirusZero
06.24.2012 , 10:48 PM | #21
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flyersfan
06.24.2012 , 10:56 PM | #22
It still never ceases to amaze me how much people on PvE servers hate being flagged for PvP.
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onfireguy
06.24.2012 , 11:03 PM | #23
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A popup is impractical for this purpose. If someone wanted to step in to assist another player engaged in PvP, the battle could easily be over in the time it takes to mouse over and click "Yes." PvP play is extremely fast paced, and a heal or buff at a given moment can mean the difference between a win or a loss.

Any automated system needs to allow interested players to step in at these opportune moments. For this reason a general toggle setting is probably the better option. If set normally, the game would function as it does now. If the initial setting were changed it would prevent a player from engaging in any activity that would otherwise flag them for PvP.
Have to disagree. That second or two of time that ~theoretically~ could happen is completely worth the trade-off of a player knowing that they won't be flagged for PVP unless they want to. Remember, this is for a PVE server. And your hypothetical system... isn't that just what the PVP flag being off is supposed to do?

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onfireguy
06.24.2012 , 11:06 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by flyersfan View Post
It still never ceases to amaze me how much people on PvE servers hate being flagged for PvP.
They rolled on a PVE server - why would that amaze you in the least?

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eGraced
06.24.2012 , 11:08 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by flyersfan View Post
It still never ceases to amaze me how much people on PvE servers hate being flagged for PvP.
Why would this amaze you? If PvE players wanted to get flagged for PvP, they would have rolled on a PvP server, or joined a Warzone.
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JeramieCrowe
06.24.2012 , 11:09 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
They need to have a toggle for PVP and once it is on..you cannot be flagged for PVP or take any PVP action. This is how Rift is.
I agree. Works well in Rift.
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funkiestj
06.24.2012 , 11:10 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by onfireguy View Post
They rolled on a PVE server - why would that amaze you in the least?
exactly. I actually don't mind getting ganked since even on PvP servers it happens so infrequently but it is only fair that folks on a PvE server expect not to stumble into a surprise PvP situation.

If I could go back in time I would have rolled PvP for my first toon. I was afraid it would be gank city as I was learning (new to MMOs) so I rolled PvE.

I too got attacked PvP on Alderaan. Not a big deal but I thought "aren't I playing on a PvE server today"?

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HeavensAgent
06.24.2012 , 11:15 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by onfireguy View Post
Have to disagree. That second or two of time that ~theoretically~ could happen is completely worth the trade-off of a player knowing that they won't be flagged for PVP unless they want to. Remember, this is for a PVE server. And your hypothetical system... isn't that just what the PVP flag being off is supposed to do?
Except that some do want to jump in at that opportune moment. A toggle would allow those interested in doing this to do so, and allow those who do not want to inadvertently flag to ensure it never happens.

And there's nothing theoretical about the 1-2 second window. I can change the tide of a PvP fight.
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flyersfan
06.24.2012 , 11:20 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by onfireguy View Post
They rolled on a PVE server - why would that amaze you in the least?
Quote: Originally Posted by eGraced View Post
Why would this amaze you? If PvE players wanted to get flagged for PvP, they would have rolled on a PvP server, or joined a Warzone.
I see a significant difference between not wanting to be flagged for PvP and absolutely losing your sh*t when being flagged. Before they "fixed" the buff PvP flag thing, I used to get screamed at by people for buffing them. I was legitimately just trying to be helpful and buff them, but I ended up getting yelled at for flagging someone. I've had guildmates that Quick Travel to a cantina and then log out because they got flagged.

Is it really that serious? From what I've noticed, being flagged means so little. My new Vanguard has been flagged since her day of creation and just finally ran into one Imperial on Hoth at level 47 that I had a little scuffle with. I project that it'll take several more weeks for that to happen again.

I can understand not wanting to PvP out in the open. It can be frustrating and ruin some places, but it's not the end of the world. It can add some fun and spice up the levelling process. Worst case scenario, you can go hang out in a cantina and craft for a while until the flag goes away.
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JeramieCrowe
06.24.2012 , 11:24 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by flyersfan View Post
I see a significant difference between not wanting to be flagged for PvP and absolutely losing your sh*t when being flagged. Before they "fixed" the buff PvP flag thing, I used to get screamed at by people for buffing them. I was legitimately just trying to be helpful and buff them, but I ended up getting yelled at for flagging someone. I've had guildmates that Quick Travel to a cantina and then log out because they got flagged.

Is it really that serious? From what I've noticed, being flagged means so little. My new Vanguard has been flagged since her day of creation and just finally ran into one Imperial on Hoth at level 47 that I had a little scuffle with. I project that it'll take several more weeks for that to happen again.

I can understand not wanting to PvP out in the open. It can be frustrating and ruin some places, but it's not the end of the world. It can add some fun and spice up the levelling process. Worst case scenario, you can go hang out in a cantina and craft for a while until the flag goes away.
I feel the same way about the Juggernaut/Guardian adjustment. Some people are straight flipping a lid over it, and it's just not that big of a deal. Adjust and move on.
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