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Fleurtygirl
06.23.2012 , 07:29 PM | #81
Oops, broke the message board.
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AidanLightwalker
06.23.2012 , 07:43 PM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by filipesantana View Post
oh..i dont know..because its a show featured on the number 1 mmo webpage( mmochamp)...and from one of the top 3 gaming tv channels (G4)...because they know what thei're talking about....hmm..because they know more then any average mmo joe...hmmmbecause they analyze stuff without any fanboyism...

and finaly...

because they are the face of the industry...that will eventualy dictate mmo fates


so he he know more AND better ...and i assure you BW take this "professional" and public reviews seriously...
I disgree with everything you just said. G4 use to be a gaming channel, now its just junk. Stupid shows with bais reviews on tech stuff.

And I'm sorry but casey feeds off ratings on the show and for years he just says **** to stir up the pot. Mmo champion is basically a wow fansite, not a mmo lead all.

I'm a big time gamer and none of the reason you mentioned hold any weight for me. More like candy for forum trolls.
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boxfetish
06.23.2012 , 07:53 PM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by metalgearyoda View Post
The game should have launched as B2P with a cash shop.

Subscription's are harder to justify than the initial purchase or shiny mounts.
I am starting to think so too. In fact, maybe even launched as B2P (no sub) and initially only allow humans as your race and only one advanced class for each base class. Also, maybe just non-mod-able gear and only one companion. Then sold the extra advanced class, all other races, mod-able/orange gear. the rest of the companions, etc. in the cash shop. Normally, I don't go for this sort of thing, but if it meant many more companions, gear-skins, and races for us too choose from I would be all about it.

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metalgearyoda
06.23.2012 , 08:04 PM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by boxfetish View Post
I am starting to think so too. In fact, maybe even launched as B2P (no sub) and initially only allow humans as your race and only one advanced class for each base class. Also, maybe just non-mod-able gear and only one companion. Then sold the extra advanced class, all other races, mod-able/orange gear. the rest of the companions, etc. in the cash shop. Normally, I don't go for this sort of thing, but if it meant many more companions, gear-skins, and races for us too choose from I would be all about it.
The way I see it...

5 million would have been playing it cause it was free.
Easily.
If those 5 million spend, on average 3 dollars a month on the cash shop... Bioware would be making as much money as they do now but each server would have a lively population and people would be saying "Finally, a AAA B2P MMO that is amazingly fun and has an amazing plot! Woo!"

It would have been heralded as a turning point in the industry.

Ugh.

Opportunity missed.

Next best thing is to switch to F2P with cash shop and B2P chapter / raids.

And expand space dramatically.

Also, anyone who thinks swtor is in trouble needs to get over it. Most MMOs have around 300-500k subs. That's normal. Eve has 360k and its amazing, constantly pumping out content, and is coming out with a fantastic free shooter called dust 514 for the PS3 that takes place in Eves world. I highly suggest everyone look at it.

I digress.

F2P is a better gaming model than subscription. >_>
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AidanLightwalker
06.23.2012 , 08:06 PM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Cloma View Post
I don't know if I agree with everything he was saying. The Degabah thing was either a sarcastic joke or proof of total ignorance of the actual game. Being a fan of the show I would bet on sarcastic joke. In my personal opinion this game is in trouble. It needs something huge to save it. Yes transfers helped a lot. If you really think about it. Is this move going to bring new people to the game? The answer is probably not. I went to best buy yesterday and picked up a copy of SWTOR just to look at it. The Best Buy sales representative looked at me and said "you don't want to buy that, the game is dead". BioWare has put a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths. Word of mouth is probably one of the strongest marketing tools out there.

I'm completely bored of this game. 1.3's fluff with ranked WarZones are not enough to keep me playing. Once this sub runs out i'm probably done. I wish I could get my money back on everything because looking back it wasn't worth it. Another MMO with so much potential wasted.
News flash! Any real techie or gamer know not to listen to best buy. Those guys don't know anything. The most incompetent group of people I've ever seen lol
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Wolfeisberg
06.23.2012 , 08:10 PM | #86
Saw it was G4, realized I am not a brain dead console player, so didn't watch it. G4 is right up there with Reality TV as things that should not exist.
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Vitas
06.23.2012 , 08:24 PM | #87
I know the SWTOR devs have said they're listening to fans and hearing their feedback. But what people don't seem to realise is that with a game that has over a million players, it's going to be hard for a team which consists of less people than compared to the game's population to answer each individual response

I'm just wondering what are these high expectations that people seem to have for SWTOR?
Is it more than what's printed on the game's box?
Is it more extravagant than what's detailed on the official website?
Is the game supposed to project these holograms off of the screen which you can actually touch and feel?
IMHO, these 'high expectations' seem like nothing but hallucinations coming from the side effects of sniffing paint.
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SentinelDranoel
06.23.2012 , 08:28 PM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by filipesantana View Post
oh..i dont know..because its a show featured on the number 1 mmo webpage( mmochamp)...and from one of the top 3 gaming tv channels (G4)...because they know what thei're talking about....hmm..because they know more then any average mmo joe...hmmmbecause they analyze stuff without any fanboyism...

and finaly...

because they are the face of the industry...that will eventualy dictate mmo fates


so he he know more AND better ...and i assure you BW take this "professional" and public reviews seriously...
With that kind of logic then I should start watching FOX news. People have bias opinions, nothing new. Do your own research and formulate your own opinion. My opinion of swtor is a decent one, still not the best it could be yet.
and the Force beat generic Swords and Magic any day. 8/26/14 That was my old signature but after RotHC, I went back to superheroes and swords and magic. Now waiting on Dragon Age and a SWTOR story expac for my Bioware fix 7/30/15 Returned for KotFE. Finally, a story expac.

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Galbatorrix
06.23.2012 , 08:40 PM | #89
Hilarious. That guy in the video sounding like a butthurt idiot and the people that are defending his drivel in this thread! ..... LOL!!

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murshawursha
06.23.2012 , 08:49 PM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by metalgearyoda View Post
Next best thing is to switch to F2P with cash shop and B2P chapter / raids.
No. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO A THOUSAND TIMES NO. The day they start charging for new areas/worlds/raids/whatever DDO-style is the day I quit this game. If they want to go F2P with a cash shop, fine. But I am absolutely opposed to microtransactions for actual content.

Even if it ended up being cheaper than $15/month, I'm still opposed to it. Why? Because with a subscription fee, everybody playing the game has access to the same content. As soon as you start making people have to buy extra content, you run into issues with segregating the population into 'haves' and 'have-nots', and it makes grouping up to do stuff that much more of a pain in the ***. I don't want to have to be hassling my guild members to buy whatever new raid just released every time something comes out. That's not F2P, that's letting you demo a shell of a game and charging for everything that actually makes the game the game.

NO.