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SWTOR and the EA stock plummet

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SWTOR and the EA stock plummet

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jasonshort
06.21.2012 , 10:56 PM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by zerosaint View Post
First of all:

Released 12/20/11 it's been -seven- months.

Second of all:
Losing 400k subscribers as of May (honestly likely more now) is not 'growing' unless I have been taught the wrong definition. Additionally being forced to condense nearly a hundred servers into 10 or so is also not a sign of growth.

I am not trying to be a jerk, but please know your facts before you spout this sort of nonsense.
Name one MMO that has 100 servers, or even close to that, and uses them all.

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RolyartNala
06.21.2012 , 11:05 PM | #112
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Name one MMO that has 100 servers, or even close to that, and uses them all.
World of Warcraft
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CygnusMX
06.21.2012 , 11:08 PM | #113
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And those people would have left any new game once they reached endgame and got bored. They're the same people who sat here in the forums or in general chat talking about how great D3 and G2 were going to be, then got bored with D3 after one runthrough, made it through a couple of beta weekends of G2 and started whining, and are now talking about.....Elder Scrolls Online. Since it's always best to overinflate your expectations for a game you can't yet play, then you can talk out your butt all you want about all the cool features it will have that NO OTHER GAME WILL EVER MATCH. Just like they did with SWTOR, then were disappointed that it wasn't the best MMO ever in the history of the world. They are never happy with any game for long, because no game can ever match the expectations they have in their head for said game.

I have some friends who follow this pattern, and I just play with them when they're enjoying the high of a new game, and say sayonara when they get bored. They're almost always back for new content patches, despite how "boring" said game is. Because they go through games like disposable tissues, and therefore are always looking for something else to blow their figurative noses on, or wipe their figurative....well, you get the picture.

Everyting they're saying with regards to BW was said at one time or another re Sony and EQ1 and EQ2, well before P2P ever came on the scene. Considering how long Warcraft has been kept on life support without P2P, and the dislike LA has for the concept, I think a full P2P scenario is a lot further in the future than the doomsayers would prefer. They so like to make those in six months, six weeks, heck, six days predictions.
Oh I'de see that IN game in Guildwars 1 long ago, oh theres nothing to do , bla bla bla.
Somehow i found things to do with guild, friends or random groups, replayed favorite missions.
I dont think it's so much that theres nothing to do, Its gamers who do nothing that have nothing to do.

As far as expectations go ,thats the imagination , making up things, thoughts conjured up by the idea of how someone thinks something will be, or make them feel.
Expectations are really hard to meet too, because the word expectation is the only reason the word dissapointment exists.
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jarjarloves
06.21.2012 , 11:41 PM | #114
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World of Warcraft
not since D3 came out. Look at their forums people are SCREAMING for server mergers.

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Evironrage
06.21.2012 , 11:49 PM | #115
EA has been getting pummeled for a few months now. Just goes to show future MMO devs to wait till a product is ready before launching.
Too bad no small co.s are willing to do what Blizzard did to keep the game in-house. They mortgaged themselves to the hilt to keep the lights on and it was boom or bust when WoW hit the shelves. Blizz bet on themselves and it paid huge dividends in the end.
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VegaPhone
06.22.2012 , 12:18 AM | #116
I think the reason why the stocks are down is because people bought stocks before the release of swtor and sold them after the release of swtor. So they profited from that, but by everyone selling, it caused EA to lose a lot of money slowing down its capacity to invest and expand.

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Dunzo
06.22.2012 , 12:18 AM | #117
This game will settle into a niche group of loyal players and go full F2P within the next year exactly as LOTRO did. The rest of us will just have to entertain ourselves elsewhere.

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Tuzark
06.22.2012 , 12:29 AM | #118
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I dont know if it will ever recover.

The main problem I heard from all my friends and guildmates leaving the game was, "it is too much like wow" or "game got boring once you hit 50"
Same problem for me. The combat system is (in MY opinion) just a copy paste from WoW's combat that was "improved" slightly. For me, this is getting old and boring, I want a combat system where hits/misses are not determined by stats, but by the players themselves, and I really hate how you have tons of skills and only use like half of them.

I also agree that the game gets boring at 50. The leveling was a lot of fun, but at 50 It just felt like WoW all over again. Dailies, BG/Dungeon farming. The game is a bit too "closed", the world dosen't feel as large and open as I had hoped.

And lastly, this MMO suffers from the same "problem" as many others (for me), and that is... lack of irl friends playing it. If none of my irl plays an MMO with me, I tend to get bored really quickly... and most of my friends gave up on this game months ago, sadly.
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KitsuneWard
06.22.2012 , 12:32 AM | #119
EA also got voted Worst Company Ever since then. Launched Mass Effect 3 and had massive consumer backlash.

EA is reaping the rewards of their unfriendly policy towards customers. It isn't a business model that works. Hopefully SWTOR doesn't get dragged down in the cross fire. Free transfers and dungeon finder will help tremendously.

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jarjarloves
06.22.2012 , 12:34 AM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by Dunzo View Post
This game will settle into a niche group of loyal players and go full F2P within the next year exactly as LOTRO did. The rest of us will just have to entertain ourselves elsewhere.
it took over 2 years for LotrO to go F2P. LotrO never had the sub numbers this game does even at its peak. Hell it only peaked at 275k then it went all went down until it found a happy level around 100k for a year.

Point being they won't go F2P until they found out what their flat line number is. Only one MMO went F2P in less then a year and that was DCUO and the only reason it went F2P is because the sony hack and they shut the game down for a month. When they brought it back no one was playing.

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