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Microtransactions - how far is too far?

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Microtransactions - how far is too far?

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BJWyler
06.21.2012 , 06:48 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by KorvusKaar View Post
Although I wouldn't use any MT's I'd be fine with whatever they'd want to do with it as long as I could get the same thing in-game without having to spend real money for it. Want to let the guy change his hair? Go ahead! Want to let him buy a speeder that costs 2 mil creds? Sure, why not? Do you want to sell him xp? I'm ok with that. I would even be ok with them selling raid/PVP gear....after all there's plenty of very bad players out there that got their stuff the "hard" way and still suck....selling gear for real money to an experience player would probably be less of a dent than that guy that got all his gear from being carried everywhere...
Now what I have a problem with is when they start selling stuff that are BETTER than what you can sweat for...it starts with speeders just a little faster...then it becomes gear with slightly better stats and it ends up with 1-hit-KO-super-swords
That's pretty much the way I feel about the MT subject. I think that any item that can be gotten in game should also be available at a vendor in game and as a microtransaction, that way players have an option of how they want to get stuff:
You like Raiding and enjoy lots of it to get the ultra rare white/black core crystal through that method? Great, Raid to your heart's content.
You don't like doing repeatable content more than a couple of times, but enjoy exploring and completing all content at least once or twice and on an alt or two, then save up all those credits you earned by doing it to buy that crystal at a vendor.
You play casually and your available play time is too limited to make the first two options viable, then use the option to buy the crystal through a microtransaction.

BJ
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Jenzali
06.21.2012 , 06:49 PM | #22
Cosmetic items, vanity, mounts, pets, transfers, character re-customizations are all fine.

Anything that affects the game mechanics (out of combat or in-combat) isn't, in my opinion. So that would include crit crafting bonuses.

I would be severely disappointed if you had to pay for a new companion, or to open up new story content. But I'd probably end up paying through my teeth anyway even though I was very against paying for DLC like in Mass Effect or Dragon Age.
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KorvusKaar
06.21.2012 , 07:02 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by BJWyler View Post
That's pretty much the way I feel about the MT subject. I think that any item that can be gotten in game should also be available at a vendor in game and as a microtransaction, that way players have an option of how they want to get stuff:
You like Raiding and enjoy lots of it to get the ultra rare white/black core crystal through that method? Great, Raid to your heart's content.
You don't like doing repeatable content more than a couple of times, but enjoy exploring and completing all content at least once or twice and on an alt or two, then save up all those credits you earned by doing it to buy that crystal at a vendor.
You play casually and your available play time is too limited to make the first two options viable, then use the option to buy the crystal through a microtransaction.

BJ
I think the problem many people have with this kind of MT's is the objectives they have when playing the game.
When I invest my time in grinding for gear, mounts, exp, titles, whatever I do it because when I look at what I got it gives me a sense of accomplishment and a job well done. The problem is that some people (and if this doesn't apply to any of you do realize I said SOME) do the same grinding as I do because they want OTHERS to see what they have accomplished.
The difference here is that while I am only concerned about what I've achieved, if somebody else got the exact same for 100€, that doesn't affect me at all. Now for the ones that want others to know how hard they worked, if anybody can buy everything, then their hard work is going to be lost in the sea of the ones that got exactly the same with no work involved (minus the work involved to earn the real money ).

Now I'm not saying that my way or their way is the right way, just pointing out the possible reason for so many people being against MT's...

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BJWyler
06.21.2012 , 07:25 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by KorvusKaar View Post
I think the problem many people have with this kind of MT's is the objectives they have when playing the game.
When I invest my time in grinding for gear, mounts, exp, titles, whatever I do it because when I look at what I got it gives me a sense of accomplishment and a job well done. The problem is that some people (and if this doesn't apply to any of you do realize I said SOME) do the same grinding as I do because they want OTHERS to see what they have accomplished.
The difference here is that while I am only concerned about what I've achieved, if somebody else got the exact same for 100€, that doesn't affect me at all. Now for the ones that want others to know how hard they worked, if anybody can buy everything, then their hard work is going to be lost in the sea of the ones that got exactly the same with no work involved (minus the work involved to earn the real money ).

Now I'm not saying that my way or their way is the right way, just pointing out the possible reason for so many people being against MT's...
Oh yeah - no surprise there. The e-peen factor aka "I have a low self-worth so I need to get validation for my existence through my meaningless virtual achievements in a game." Been dealing with that for many, many years. To each their own, but ultimately I think the more options thing tends to be the one that appeals to the widest possible audience, thus will yield the largest potential profit.

BJ
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KorvusKaar
06.21.2012 , 07:27 PM | #25
I work mostly through the "I don't tell others how they should enjoy their game and I'd appreciate if they'd return the kindness" notion

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DiabloDoom
06.21.2012 , 07:42 PM | #26
I don't mind MT, as long as it isn't an adopted model of anything Asian, got hooked on a game called Magic World Online once for 3 weeks and spent £200

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stineo
06.21.2012 , 07:55 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by MandoBubba View Post
paying for anything performance enhancing is de facto Pay to Win and an unforgivable SIN in my gaming - auto-unsubscribe for me.
I am of this point of view. When a game turns into a "pay to win" I am gone.

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monkgryphon
06.21.2012 , 07:57 PM | #28
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If it is more than fluff, I have had enough.
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murshawursha
06.21.2012 , 08:17 PM | #29
Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention - charging for story and other content, like new operations or planets or quests or companions (unless it's a full-blown expansion) is an absolute no-no. That would be an insta-quit for me.

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BJWyler
06.21.2012 , 08:28 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by KorvusKaar View Post
I work mostly through the "I don't tell others how they should enjoy their game and I'd appreciate if they'd return the kindness" notion
I feel yah there. Too bad there are far too many others who don't believe in that philosophy.

BJ
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