Ten million plus subs is still feasible...(only have one shot though bioware)

SWTOR subs are currently at less than 750k . . . and you are hoping for 10million? LOL

......wait for it..........Space. This is Biowares one and only shot at really hitting a home run. Only two other MMOs have really even tried space. Eve and Star Trek Online. If Bioware can pull Space off right, this game will explode so hard.....will make that other game look like a merry-go-round at the park. Id say 20 million subs would not be out of the question...(it would take a perfect space launch on a scale we have never seen...but possible). Discuss? Do you agree or disagree with me? What would you like to see in the Space launch....(while the missions are fun....thats not really space. thats space commendation grinding material).

P.S. However space is all or nothing. if Bioware fails space. this will stay a million to 750 sub mmo. only populated by us star wars nuts....

that makes no sense... 5 million or so? you mean MMO players? you are trying to tell my 4/5th of ALL mmo players in US/EU subbed to WoW at the same time? lmao... given the pop of the USA alone is around 312 million and the prevalence of gaming I can easily call crap on that one

By the way . . . the US/EU mmo market only has a realistic 5 million or so (i.e. the max WoW was able to achieve). Hitting 10million requires half the subs coming from Asia (and note that Blizzard had a strong foothold in the Asian market due to the popularity of the original Warcraft series).

For SWTOR to acquire that much of the Asian market would be extremely difficult due to the investment required (while subs and funding fall), the competition from so many other popular games there, and the lack of confidence in EA and SWTOR (i.e. they haven't been playing a related product happily for years, like with Warcraft).

MMO? MMO cover a lot of genres, not just RPG. There are around 22million MMORPG subscribers globally. Half and half East/WEst

"P2P AAA MMO" . . . that better? Moreover, quoting the entire population isn't very useful. What is useful is quoting the largest subscriber base a "P2P AAA MMO" has achieved (i.e. the largest share of the pie). And that number is 5.5 million US/EU subs at WoW's peak.

With today's plentiful competition, do you really (like the OP) think a MMO can DOUBLE that record?

Anyway, the point being, space revamp would most likely be the final nail in the coffin for this game, not some savior.

SWG space was awesome, until you had to take 4 shuttles to get back to where you left your ship. Having a full crew YT-1300 was awesome, though for PvP I saw more than a fair share of other people on Tempest, but they always outgeared me and I went down in flames.

The way the Hero Engine tends to get real laggy when a bunch of people start fighting up close, I dont know if it could handle a 20v20 dogfight. Though it wouldnt be as gfx intense since there would be fewer skills being used/particle effects.

Being able to take a guild capital ship into battle with a fighter escort would definitely get me back in space.