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moving more than 8 char to new server?
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Unameit
06.18.2012 , 10:29 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman
If more than 8 of your characters are eligible for transfer to the same server, you'll need to choose which 8 you'd like to transfer over. The maximum number of characters you can have on a server is 8, even if you are eligible for transfers.


That quote from Bioware is probably the most short sighted thing I've ever read. I'm a long time MMO fan and have always chosen to roll opposing factions on different servers. Why would I chose to play along side my friends then turn around and play against them. Call it realm pride, guild pride...whatever.

I think allowing people to roll both realms on one server was a mistake in this game like it was a mistake in Rift. I always leave open slots for expansions or class changes. Maybe I want one of each class, maybe I want to roll a dedicated healer along with a dedicated dps. By Biowares logic, that then squeezes out a class option for another character.

I too have 4 Emp on one server and 5 Rep on another server and both are being transferred to one server. Get this through your head Bioware, I do not want them on the same server PERIOD.

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Anti_Bodies
06.18.2012 , 10:55 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
1. People have been clamouring for more character slots since beta.
2. We have been told that they have heard us and will be offering this in the future.
3. But, did not implement this BEFORE this server transfer cluge.
4 Showing lack of foresight as to the potential effects of their actions pertaining to transfers and charcter slots.
5. ALSO showing they really don't give a flying fig about their customers.

This is reminds me of all the crap that $oE did to SWG with the CU.


ALSO and most importantly SINCE WE DON"T KNOW THE FINAL OUTCOME ... those of us with alts spread out amoungst the servers NOW HAVE TO WAIT TO TRANSFER ..... so that we can prioritize which alts we want to keep.

TOTALY MAD about this ... I can't even transfer now until I see the FINAL state of origin vs. destination.

SOOOOOO WELLLL thought out BW.

SSDD.
  1. I find it hard to believe that people clamored for it in beta, seeing how their were periodic wipes.
  2. future =/= right now
  3. its not oversight, its common sense & priorities. For people with 8 on one server and 5 on another, nothing has changed. You still have 2 seperate servers. Chances are some of your characters are rarely played, and more character transfers will likely come in the coming months.

Their are much better things to be this upset about TBH.

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Rezac
06.20.2012 , 12:13 PM | #73
Since they did not give us the list of all servers moving at the same time, I didn't know I'd have 3 servers going to one destination. So when the first server of 8 characters came up, I moved them all. Then a week later I find out that 2 other servers of 8 characters are suppose to move to the same place. How is this helping? Now I have to stay on a server that has 19 to 30 people on the whole server playing. They didn't have to open up all the moving at once but they could have told us which servers would be going where so we could make decisions. As it stands, I wouldn't delete any of these characters because what I and my family were doing is making a storyline with each server.

When we get into this situation, why can't they allow us to goto a different server. Zekkeg Beast should be going to Drooga's Pleasure Barge but it is full of 8 characters. I really don't care where my Zekkeg Beast characters go, just so long as it's an active server that I don't already have 8 characters on it. Now all that work, down the drain. I can't move with the guild we were with and I can't even move to a new server to find new friends and a guild.

This transfer was to make it more fun for us? HELLOOOOOO!!! this is NOT fun

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Kharnis
06.20.2012 , 12:27 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Unameit View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman
If more than 8 of your characters are eligible for transfer to the same server, you'll need to choose which 8 you'd like to transfer over. The maximum number of characters you can have on a server is 8, even if you are eligible for transfers.


That quote from Bioware is probably the most short sighted thing I've ever read. I'm a long time MMO fan and have always chosen to roll opposing factions on different servers. Why would I chose to play along side my friends then turn around and play against them. Call it realm pride, guild pride...whatever.

I think allowing people to roll both realms on one server was a mistake in this game like it was a mistake in Rift. I always leave open slots for expansions or class changes. Maybe I want one of each class, maybe I want to roll a dedicated healer along with a dedicated dps. By Biowares logic, that then squeezes out a class option for another character.

I too have 4 Emp on one server and 5 Rep on another server and both are being transferred to one server. Get this through your head Bioware, I do not want them on the same server PERIOD.
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06.20.2012 , 12:42 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
1. People have been clamouring for more character slots since beta.
2. We have been told that they have heard us and will be offering this in the future.
3. But, did not implement this BEFORE this server transfer cluge.
4 Showing lack of foresight as to the potential effects of their actions pertaining to transfers and charcter slots.
5. ALSO showing they really don't give a flying fig about their customers.

This is reminds me of all the crap that $oE did to SWG with the CU.


ALSO and most importantly SINCE WE DON"T KNOW THE FINAL OUTCOME ... those of us with alts spread out amoungst the servers NOW HAVE TO WAIT TO TRANSFER ..... so that we can prioritize which alts we want to keep.

TOTALY MAD about this ... I can't even transfer now until I see the FINAL state of origin vs. destination.

SOOOOOO WELLLL thought out BW.

SSDD.
People made assumptions on how xfers would go, and they were wrong..

No sympathy for people like that.. none what so ever.

I'm actually dumbfounded that anybody would get upset that they can't move more than 8 characters to a single server when it has been the case since before launch that 8/server is the max.

The people in this situation have nobody to blame but themselves. Impatient much?
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Nyla
06.21.2012 , 03:18 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Nytak View Post
People made assumptions on how xfers would go, and they were wrong..

No sympathy for people like that.. none what so ever.

I'm actually dumbfounded that anybody would get upset that they can't move more than 8 characters to a single server when it has been the case since before launch that 8/server is the max.

The people in this situation have nobody to blame but themselves. Impatient much?
Maybe some people are impatient, I'm not. I can play 8 characters on a populated server, that's fine.... for now.

I just want BW to realize that by doing transfers the way they have done them, they actually at least halved the time some of us will spend playing TOR.

I didn't complained when I rerolled from my first servers to new ones with good enough population because BW couldn't have predicted which servers would have low pop.

The difference here is the transfers and the way they have been done (1 destination) is really a decision BW made and thought about. They deliberately chose to reduce the amount of servers with a viable population, effectively reducing our chance to play with a good quality of the service we pay for. Sure, it has some pros to do things that way, but it has also some problems.
While I don't know how their servers and databases work, I somehow doubt that doubling the number of slots per server would really change much.

If I was a bit cynical, I would say they deliberately chose NOT to answer to this problem because they expect us to buy transfers and/or new account. Well, while I have done that in some other MMOs because that's how it was working from the start, I won't do it on TOR because it's a choice they made after it went live.

I know some people may say they already answered, in fact they didn't. A member of the Community Team saying how things are is not an answer, that's all they can say because that's all they are able to tell us. As long as they aren't acknowleding there's a problem (real or perceived), they aren't answering, they are just stating the current situation.

I just hope this problem like others about transfers will have an update about the future plans soon so everyone can really start to enjoy high populated servers again.

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Goretzu
06.21.2012 , 11:43 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Nytak View Post
People made assumptions on how xfers would go, and they were wrong..

No sympathy for people like that.. none what so ever.

I'm actually dumbfounded that anybody would get upset that they can't move more than 8 characters to a single server when it has been the case since before launch that 8/server is the max.

The people in this situation have nobody to blame but themselves. Impatient much?


With the way things were at launch having 8 on 1 server and 8 on another was a perfectly reasonable thing.

Now with 1.2 the writting was on the wall (having 2 legacys was just self-harm), but even then server transfers weren't obvious.

As things stand Bioware needs to have some way to allow 16 slots per server, it's the only reasonable outcome.
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Arieana
06.21.2012 , 12:15 PM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
As things stand Bioware needs to have some way to allow 16 slots per server, it's the only reasonable outcome.
I like the above idea myself.

When I played EQ2, about a year after it came out, we had to pay an extra fee to have just four more slots on top of the eight given. I think it was ten or twelve dollars on top of the fifteen, I cannot remember. I'm sure subscribers would pay the extra luxury fee to have access to more character slots.

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ScarletBlaze
06.21.2012 , 12:21 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Unameit View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman
If more than 8 of your characters are eligible for transfer to the same server, you'll need to choose which 8 you'd like to transfer over. The maximum number of characters you can have on a server is 8, even if you are eligible for transfers.


That quote from Bioware is probably the most short sighted thing I've ever read. I'm a long time MMO fan and have always chosen to roll opposing factions on different servers. Why would I chose to play along side my friends then turn around and play against them. Call it realm pride, guild pride...whatever.

I think allowing people to roll both realms on one server was a mistake in this game like it was a mistake in Rift. I always leave open slots for expansions or class changes. Maybe I want one of each class, maybe I want to roll a dedicated healer along with a dedicated dps. By Biowares logic, that then squeezes out a class option for another character.

I too have 4 Emp on one server and 5 Rep on another server and both are being transferred to one server. Get this through your head Bioware, I do not want them on the same server PERIOD.
You may not like them on the same server but I have friends who lke their empire toons on the same server mainly because we all play on one server.. Not everyone wants to play on a mutltiple of servers just because they want to play a different faction.
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Jeebo_Mak
06.21.2012 , 12:42 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman View Post
If more than 8 of your characters are eligible for transfer to the same server, you'll need to choose which 8 you'd like to transfer over. The maximum number of characters you can have on a server is 8, even if you are eligible for transfers.
I hope BW will consider a phase 2 Free Transfer where the Destination Servers are swapped around.
I am in the unlucky situation that I have characters on 3 servers - Jedi Covenant + 2 others that are both allowed to transfer to Jedi Covenant.
There is another destination alternative for East coast PvE, so if a 2nd wave of transfers was allowed with the other server as destination for my two source servers, then I would gladly transfer and help free up those system resources. I know that eventually BW needs to shut down these under populated servers and I also don't care to play on a server that has only 20 people online at a given time.
I don't care to pay for character transfers; however, I would pay for extra character slots if given the choice.
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