Are SWTOR players spoiled? (Came from FF XI instead of WOW)

WoW was similarly hard in vanilla, not as difficult as FF XI but not as easy as it is now.

They only reason it got easier is because "the majority" of people on the forums complained about the difficulty. While in reality, the real majority didn't mind and actually enjoyed the challenge, myself included. But only a very small vocal minority posts on the forums and Blizzard in all their wisdom decided to listen to them.

Thanks to them, BioWare got it's ideas for how the game should be run from the new, easier WoW.

I think Archage is trying to do that.

I'm going to take flak for saying this, but I think it's less the modern games "spoiling" players and more just the current attitudes of the younger generations. I know it's a generalization but a lot of you carry around a "I want it now!!!" and "Gimmee,Gimmee,Gimme" attitude and have little to no patience. Who knows maybe I'm wrong, and I'm becoming a curmudgeon at my ripe old age of 33 or maybe it's just how I perceive civilians and apply it to the younger generations.

WoW was never hard compared to any of it's predecessors. One of the main reason's of WoW's early success and huge population numbers was that it was geared towards the casual gamer. No death penalty or tax, no grinding for exp or levels,easy and safe navigation for lowbies etc. You can't even really say their raiding was hard,especially if you compare for example, vanilla Ragnaros vs. Kerafyrm The Sleeper.

I'm going to take flak for saying this, but I think it's less the modern games "spoiling" players and more just the current attitudes of the younger generations. I know it's a generalization but a lot of you carry around a "I want it now!!!" and "Gimmee,Gimmee,Gimme" attitude and have little to no patience. Who knows maybe I'm wrong, and I'm becoming a curmudgeon at my ripe old age of 33 or maybe it's just how I perceive civilians and apply it to the younger generations.

I don't see where the 'Are SWTOR players spoiled' question comes into the blog piece?

Do you claim SWTOR players are spoiled because other games are more grindy?

Yet you still play this game? Just because you are from and " eastern mmo " doesn't mean anything. Basically, if you enjoy the game then play it, if not, then leave.

The last MMO I played seriously was EQ1.

I love how fast you can level in this game and that most of the "grind" is doing quests and not killing the same monsters over and over.

What I dont like is not having 30+ man guild raids to take down a single boss. Not having unique armor and weapons that only a couple people have, in swtor everyone seems to be wearing the same stuff.

It is all smoke and mirrors.

For example, Taris is a 10 level "grind" of running around killing the 'same' monsters over and over. They just have you return to an npc after every couple of dozen kills to make it seem like you are doing something other than killing the same monster over and over. They'll also throw in several "click on the glowie" distractions, but essentially every quest is a "kill X number of rats" exercise.

The reality is there is no AI for monsters. All minion types are 2-3 hit kills that all fight exactly the same. There is no variety in monster tactics, with the exception of the odd boss monster. With your companion out it is quite easy to breeze through virtually all quest content by only ever using the core powers every class has at level 2, the rest are just gravy.

There is no danger, ever, in travelling.
There is no variety in monsters, other than cosmetic graphical differences. Flying monsters act exactly like ground based ones, humanoid monsters fight no differently than monster or animal types.
Maps and terrain serve no purpose tactically. There is no difference to fighting in a "dungeon" as opposed to on open ground.
There is virtually no danger in monster fighting if you are the proper level. If you do die, there is no penalty for it.

We are obviously seeing games like EQ through rose-colored glasses and few of us would ever go back to that level of time commitment, however the absolute extreme level of easiness to the current MMO field has gone way too far. The only way SWTOR could get any easier is to have a "level me to 50" button on character creation. As the game sits today, levelling to max is not even remotely a challenge nor does it require any skill or significant time contribution. That is the reason why this game has such a massive number of disgruntled players, the journey to 50 is ponderously boring not because it is slow, but because a 6 year old could do it. A game must challenge the players in some form or another and there is no challenge here. Nothing you do in the game ever feels like an accomplishment.

It is entirely possible to have an "accessible" game that is also challenging. City of Heroes/Villains has been doing it for nearly a decade. Though it was once considered the easy, time friendly alternative to serious MMO's, it now makes TOR and WoW look like kiddie games.