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Why did they rise server cap?

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Shingara
06.21.2012 , 02:20 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Sanxxx View Post
Oh dear , here we go again.

Devs make announcements about features etc that are coming in the future, be they releases, improvements , bug fixes or whatever.

When they deliver said feature they also announce it,

First quote , something we are doing now.
Second quote, something we intend to do.
Jesus h christ, please please please tell me how Stephen Reid is doing something right now, he doesnt even work here anymore, that was from launch and thats when they did it, 2nd thats DE talking about there not being a need for cross server LFG because they are doing that now.

I know you try it on sometimes but seriously.
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06.21.2012 , 02:20 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by deusBAAL View Post
You ever read the Dev Tracker? You rally should.

Why megaserver today? -> Because the Devs SAID openly that they can do it now but werent able to do it before, eg at launch.

Why 220 servers at launch? -> because people here on the forum were raving mad about the wait time! "BW I will unsubb now! BW I am paying so let me in NOW! BW I dont care about OTHERS, just let me in!" Thus BW opened up the extra servers. From todays perspective that was short-sighted, but back then I most likely would have done the same.

Thats the whole point. Whats hard about it to understand?
What you failed to understand is that BW did what they did to try to ensure game stability and performance.. not because of players displeasure... they set low server caps for a reason.. they had seen other MMO crash at launch and tried to protect against it... and they did it well imo... but they went about smoothing out the lauch and player pressure by adding more and more servers rather than increasing server caps slowly or traffic managing players to other servers... the silly thing is after they finished adding more servers they thn increased server caps any way....

The players didnt choose to add countless extra servers that were simply not required.. it was Biowares refusal to better manage the servers they already had... that may be due to a lack of MMO experience perhaps, but only BW can be blamed for their decisions not the playerbase and certainly not the tiny, tiny percenatage of players that were posting on here in comparision to the real population numbers...
Many of the original servers and many more of the extras server never actually got past light/standard status since launch and the growing number of players simply loosing interest in the game or fed up with its performance, its percieved lack of endgame etc all added to the situation that the game finds itself in today... a large decline in subs and server transfers to herd us back together to appease the boredom of playting the game alone on a server...

Except thats only part of the problem.. the other chunk of the issue is that at the very core of the game it is nothing more than a single player MMO with some added co-op for endgame... and that's an issue thats much harder to address even with a group finder tool incoming... lvls 1-49 simply dont need it and endgame has become a never ending grind of the same rotation of dailies.... the coming months will be interesting to see if these new busy servers will stabilise its numbers.. im doubtful but .. who knows?

So is that so hard to understand...
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06.21.2012 , 02:38 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
Jesus h christ, please please please tell me how Stephen Reid is doing something right now, he doesnt even work here anymore, that was from launch and thats when they did it, 2nd thats DE talking about there not being a need for cross server LFG because they are doing that now.

I know you try it on sometimes but seriously.
I know you like to believe , but seriously.

I was referring to SRs quote as being 'in the now' i.e at that present time.

He was responding to complaints about queues.

DE has signalled a future intent to massively increase caps, move to mega servers , etc

Today we have people complaining about queues, many wont have been here in Jan, if you had just massively increased server caps wouldnt you announce it or at least refer to monitoring the new caps etc, like SR did in Jan , to placate those complaing about queues ?

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Shingara
06.21.2012 , 02:41 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Sanxxx View Post
I know you like to believe , but seriously.

I was referring to SRs quote as being 'in the now' i.e at that present time.

He was responding to complaints about queues.

DE has signalled a future intent to massively increase caps, move to mega servers , etc

Today we have people complaining about queues, many wont have been here in Jan, if you had just massively increased server caps wouldnt you announce it or at least refer to monitoring the new caps etc, like SR did in Jan , to placate those complaing about queues ?

Le sigh, Launch week isnt now, it was then, group finder is in 1.3 so if you mean in the future thats anywhere from this moment in your eyes to 1-2 weeks. but hey dont let the xfers give you a hint that its now. OW and btw how would SR put a post out in december about xfers and q's happening now, did he have a magic ball that told him the future, OR was he in actual fact talking about the q's at launch and no longer even working here when the xfers started.

I never thought someone could deny the truth so much ever. Do you have a bet on or something or has someone threatened your life if the server caps go up.
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Sanxxx
06.21.2012 , 02:55 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
Le sigh, Launch week isnt now, it was then, group finder is in 1.3 so if you mean in the future thats anywhere from this moment in your eyes to 1-2 weeks. but hey dont let the xfers give you a hint that its now. OW and btw how would SR put a post out in december about xfers and q's happening now, did he have a magic ball that told him the future, OR was he in actual fact talking about the q's at launch and no longer even working here when the xfers started.

I never thought someone could deny the truth so much ever. Do you have a bet on or something or has someone threatened your life if the server caps go up.
Yet again , you miss the point.

People assert that something has changed without evidence, I'm not saying it hasn't just that there is no evidence one way or another.

DE said they are doing something in the future, great, and as that is good news no doubt they will tell us, similarly to what they did in January when people were compaining about Qs as they are now (admittedly not to the same degree).

I might also ask you what your interest in server queues is as you seem just as vocal on the subject.

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Shingara
06.21.2012 , 02:58 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Sanxxx View Post
Yet again , you miss the point.

People assert that something has changed without evidence, I'm not saying it hasn't just that there is no evidence one way or another.

DE said they are doing something in the future, great, and as that is good news no doubt they will tell us, similarly to what they did in January when people were compaining about Qs as they are now (admittedly not to the same degree).

I might also ask you what your interest in server queues is as you seem just as vocal on the subject.
What evidence would you like exactly, tell me anytime a developer for an mmo has given out the server cap data or any server data ? Im now going to shoot someone through the eye on BF3 Premium. DE said that in may so it is now the future from that points.

I would ask you to not make up things that i have said as it was you who stated anything about server q's when you somehow think stephen reid can tell the future from 6 months away.
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06.21.2012 , 03:19 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Drom View Post
I don't think they have the technology. Just look at Ilum lagfest.
They still don't have it just look at overall ingame performace after 4PM.
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SammuelSK
06.21.2012 , 03:24 AM | #38
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I understand your sarcasm, but what does that say about EA when people are voting them worse than those companies that did?
Says less about EA as a company, and more about people in general and gamers in particular. They are idiots. Plain and simple as that. Activision is revealed to be hacking the computers of its devs, witholding pay, milking franchises to death and a whole bunch of other, often shady, crap.. yet as soon as they release the next game.. people rush off in droves to buy the slightly polished, often buggy and incomplete turd with a **** eating grin on their faces.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of EA at times, but I also am more then a little willing to say that overall they get a hell of alot more grief then they deserve.
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We have very measurable statistics that tell us if people lose a certain number of Warzones in a row being stun locked by a team of Operatives, then that might be part of that, and they will be not as likely to re-subscribe.

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Emeda
06.21.2012 , 04:57 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Sanxxx View Post
Yet again , you miss the point.

People assert that something has changed without evidence, I'm not saying it hasn't just that there is no evidence one way or another.

DE said they are doing something in the future, great, and as that is good news no doubt they will tell us, similarly to what they did in January when people were compaining about Qs as they are now (admittedly not to the same degree).

I might also ask you what your interest in server queues is as you seem just as vocal on the subject.
It doesnt matter what you say they will just say Bioware said so or that they mentioned it so that means it must be true.

1. He never explained why we can believe them when they say they are monitoring them and adjusting them when needed.(which actually still doesnt say that they saw a reason to raise them. Just that they were monitoring them incase they needed to be(more mention it and the boys will believe it was done)), but we cant believe when they said that they would not raise the cap once it reached absolute maximum which it was very close too.

2. He also wont explain why when you do a /who survey of the servers it still shows the same status for light,heavy and full.

Dont worry he will come back and give some long speach about Bioware said it and alot of other talk but nothing to back it up.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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Shingara
06.21.2012 , 07:23 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
It doesnt matter what you say they will just say Bioware said so or that they mentioned it so that means it must be true.

1. He never explained why we can believe them when they say they are monitoring them and adjusting them when needed.(which actually still doesnt say that they saw a reason to raise them. Just that they were monitoring them incase they needed to be(more mention it and the boys will believe it was done)), but we cant believe when they said that they would not raise the cap once it reached absolute maximum which it was very close too.

2. He also wont explain why when you do a /who survey of the servers it still shows the same status for light,heavy and full.

Dont worry he will come back and give some long speach about Bioware said it and alot of other talk but nothing to back it up.
Will i really, ill tell you what i shall do, give me proof they they didnt do what they said or get out. that sounds simple enough. Its quite easy for you togo well they said it but that doesnt mean they did it so prove they didnt do what they said ?

As for your 'counting methods' they dont hold water.
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