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Team Ranked Warzones in Game Update 1.3

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Team Ranked Warzones in Game Update 1.3
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Yusta
06.20.2012 , 05:57 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Pourekos View Post
The only thing I will say is this: you allow ranked premades to q against normal pugs and you simply destroy the level 50 pvp for casuals. There is no need for PTS testing for that, pugs vs ranked premades will force casuals out of the pvp scene.
this!

Bioware are shooting at themself once more

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LarryRow
06.20.2012 , 06:59 AM | #52
We will be able to queue as a group of 5, 6, 7, or 8 for normal Warzones? It doesn't look like it, but some clarification would be appreciated. Even from someone who plays on PTS.

Also, I'm not sure how much I like the idea of waiting up to 15 minutes for a normal warzone to end if 1 of the 16 for the ranked game is playing inside. You must be anticipating some long ranked queues due to the 8 player requirement. Have you explored the idea of giving ranked-queued players inside normal warzones a popup that their ranked match is ready? People already leave games in droves, I'm not sure this would make much of an impact.

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wolfmith
06.20.2012 , 07:10 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Pourekos View Post
Thanks for the suggestion mate, I tend to do that already. The idea is that while you are waiting in the q for your Ranked game, you can also join the q for normal warzones with any group you like, including your ranked team. So tell me, how many do you think will be joining solo or with a different group, considering that 4-man premades are already quite prominent? If you are in a group to do pvp and you can join two qs for pvp, one with much shorter waiting time that also does not affect your q for the ranked games, would you skip that option? Because I don't think many will and thus the casual puggers will be facing more and more ranked premades.
yeah, serious PvPers won't be queuing for both as they can get into a normal WZ with 4 other clueless pugs to screw their game. I'm sick of getting a premade with full WH and good players matched with 4 guys, 1 of them good if we're lucky, 2 of them with less than 15k life and another one in green shirts. It won't make any difference for you normal WZ pugs as the entire team won't be queued on the same WZ if they queue both groups for normal WZs and that's what happens now with people who know how to PvP in a group and try hard to beat every WZ they get into.

As they said, you'll get your chance to play RWZs with other pugs latter in a separated queue of premades. For the time being, let the people who work hard to improve their teamplay not get screwed up by casual players who just go there to random shot at whoever gets first in their LOS, don't have "pass Huttball" bound to any key, keep killing people on the defensive line while the rest of the team is caring the ball to score again, and so on and so on...
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Blondesolid
06.20.2012 , 07:14 AM | #54
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We will not be pushing Team Ranked Warzones to the live game until we have significant PTS testing of the feature.
Uh oh, either its getting pulled from 1.3 or 1.3 isn't gonna happen for some time ><
Transfers kinda softened the blow, but I'm starting to itch for a bit of new stuff again

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wolfmith
06.20.2012 , 07:20 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Blondesolid View Post
Uh oh, either its getting pulled from 1.3 or 1.3 isn't gonna happen for some time ><
Transfers kinda softened the blow, but I'm starting to itch for a bit of new stuff again
stop the drama, they already said it will be on 1.3, no mater what. that quote isn't updated.
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Blondesolid
06.20.2012 , 07:22 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by wolfmith View Post
stop the drama, they already said it will be on 1.3, no mater what. that quote isn't updated.
Thanks, disregard my last post!!

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beepee
06.20.2012 , 07:29 AM | #57
From what I've seen and heard it seems as though the majority of the pvp community is hesitant at best while looking ahead to the ranked warzone preseason. In my opinion this is mainly because of the following reasons
  • Frequent client crashes during ranked matches in testing, with no grace period for teammates to reconnect and remain in the game
  • Bugged operation frames in testing, often showing team members as disconnected, which prevents the group from being able to queue.
  • Again bugged operations frames, excluding team members from the frame while in the warzone. this is a bug that has been around in live for months, and has still yet to be resolved.
  • Bugged "return to medcenter" button upon death, that at times will not allow the dead player to respawn no matter how many times he spam clicks the button, eventually causing that player to be booted from the game.
  • Occassional, if not frequent, client-caused lag spikes in warzones.
  • Failure by bioware to crack down on exploits and hack engines.
  • extreme case of class imbalances, combined with changes to TTK. Though they have tried multiple times to balance the classes, the developers have still fallen VERY short of this goal, and perhaps need other methods of collecting data.


The pvp community has been dwindling for months. Thousands have left the game, and many of those remaining feel as though Ranked warzones will either make or break the future pvp population in the game. If bioware manages to release this feature bug-free, manages to balance the classes in a way that can provide many viable group compositions, and can manage to reward players for their skill and their victories in some way that attracts people and drives them to play, then chances are that the pvp population will flourish. If they release the ranked warzones riddled with bugs and dominated by super teams with class compositions that are nearly unbeatable, then chances our we will see even more of the pvp community leave. Good luck bioware. Make it happen

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Jadescythe
06.20.2012 , 07:37 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by wolfmith View Post
stop the drama, they already said it will be on 1.3, no mater what. that quote isn't updated.
As far as I'm aware they have NOT said this at all. They have only said it will be in the game, like it is now, but will not be active if it is not ready. If you have seen something that I missed, please link it.

I know a lot of people are itching for ranked warzones, but I'd much rather see it go smoothly like transfers than put it out half-baked and buggy. Keep working hard to get it right for 1.3 BW.
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netskink
06.20.2012 , 08:24 AM | #59
If I can not participate because I can not get on a team, I am out. I was playing before xmas 2011, I have been transferred, I have paid my dues to this game. I was in the gankfest of teams of BM gear folks farming lowbie pugs. If I have to submit to some kid/child in order to get in ranked warzone, then I will quit and spend my money elsewhere.
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wolfmith
06.20.2012 , 09:21 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Jadescythe View Post
As far as I'm aware they have NOT said this at all. They have only said it will be in the game, like it is now, but will not be active if it is not ready. If you have seen something that I missed, please link it.

I know a lot of people are itching for ranked warzones, but I'd much rather see it go smoothly like transfers than put it out half-baked and buggy. Keep working hard to get it right for 1.3 BW.
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post
Hi there SligXx, thank you for your post. As with many things, some of our blogs are written well ahead of their publishing date and this blog is one of them. When Gabe wrote this, it was just before we opened up PTS for testing. Since then, we have had many copied characters test our Ranked Warzones. I can see why the quote would stand out, but again, this was written a few weeks ago. Hopefully that clears up any confusion!
And some report on E3 close-doors meeting had stated that the Ranked WZs will be deployed on 1.3. The only question is "when?"....

Do you honestly think they're going to risk screwing up with the little PVP community they were left since the big 1.2 failure ??
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