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RP-PvP "Lord Calypho" - Excluded from Transfers...

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RP-PvP "Lord Calypho" - Excluded from Transfers...
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Lamech
06.19.2012 , 04:36 PM | #221
Quote: Originally Posted by Ghostuka View Post

I don't know if it is just me, but LC is getting deader these last few days. Today I got out early from work (LC server's peak time), and I had a chance to play a little. We had 20 people in fleet, with only 1-2 PVP match at a time, and somehow all the usual suspects (decent players on the imperial side) seemed to be absent.... So, the experience sucked such a big time, I think I won't be logging in till server transfers are up.
Strangely enough just last night a new player was asking if the server felt more full last night. I mentioned that 'most' of the players wanted to transfer off. I then felt bad. I told this player that was new to the game that due to forum conjecture 'most' players didn't want to be there. I had felt the full force of the forum negativity. I was wrong to do that. I was giving a negative impact to a fresh player for no other reason than what I read on these boards.

It's saddening.

The player in question asked if he should re-roll now. I then realised what I had done. I had been actively discouraging new players from playing on this server. It's so detrimental to what is wanted and I've also been taken in by it. Swept along in the undercurrent of negativity created within these very forums. It's as if the empire side of the game's storytelling is so good that it has taken over and the mantra of the dark side has taken over, it's lending itself to the outside aspect of the game rather than the game itself.

How many other people have been turned aside from this server from acts similar to mine?

Besides, originally I didn't feel the population was that bad. Could it be better? Yes. Should it be better, HELL YES. Is the galactic market pee poor? oh dear yes. I've never struggled for a flashpoint though . I'm not in any guild and yet I've managed to do a flashpoint or two in my time. I've also managed to do the esseles or bt within ten minutes for every character created (which is nine, two deleted, saving the last slot for a specific unlocked legacy race). However I'm now swept along by the want of a busy server.....

I've done the melancholy, now I'll deal with the angry, it's a natural progression. Plus our options. This deserves another post..

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Notannos
06.19.2012 , 04:48 PM | #222
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Quote: Originally Posted by LovarBoy View Post
Good Evening,

I just want to inform you ( especially players on "Lord Calipho" ) that the RP-PvP Server "Lord Calypho" will have no transfer destination at the transfers coming 12th of June.

We just figured out the problem in the German forums, and we got an official answer.

It's not possible to transfer between different-type servers - it's just problematic because in the EU ( FR / GB / DE ) we only have 3 RP-PvP servers, each per region - and this RP-PvP servers ( all of them are nearly "dead" servers ) will have no option in the server transfers.


It's just a post to inform you players, especially those ones playing on "Lord Calypho".

What do you think about this illogical step BioWare takes in eliminating "dead servers"?
Thank you!

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MorbidX
06.19.2012 , 05:04 PM | #223
Maybe because people are so mad with the complete lack of communication and usual PR spiel we receive that there's no wonder your having to remove posts.


Someone just give us a straight answer....... and you'll end most of the dissent
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tomius
06.19.2012 , 05:05 PM | #224
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Lamech
06.19.2012 , 05:18 PM | #225
It astounds me the amount of people with little grasp of the written language that apparently chose an RP-PVP server.

Kind of makes me wary of a transfer to a full PVP server.

(See, this is the angry bit. I'm sure that sentence alone may upset some people but at least there will be attention given)

The options:

Transfer other French and German RP-PVP servers to LC.;

Terrible idea.
Coming Soon - Automated group finder. A pick up group created by an in-game tool that could partner two people that cannot speak to the rest of the group at all is a bad idea. There are different permutations. Two Germans with a French and Englishman, none of those players players speak the others languages to any acceptable degree, so on and so forth. Very possible, very bad.

Transfer people to LC;

It may be too late. A lot of transfers have gone ahead. The simplest of ones granted. Someone mentioned seven servers left awaiting transfers but this still seems unlikely, even if tomb is pretty full.

Transfer to NA servers;

While I did try it out briefly and didn't suffer any major lag, that is not to say other connections won't. Too difficult scenario to technically gauge correctly.

Multiple server choice;

So far every server transfer has only had one option. This may be technically related. I'm only guessing. Still they seem to have had generally a good technical success rate with the transfer of characters (names being the issue.)

Transfer to PVP server only;

Those that RP would feel aggrieved. Whether RP is active or not is irrelevant. Some would feel the additional maturity of those that choose an RP server is greater than the need for open PVP.

Transfer to RP server only;

Those that want PVP would feel aggrieved. It seems that many feel PVP is a personal choice whether it is very available in the game or not.

My suggestion;

Staggered transfer. Not necessarily the best solution. Week one, offer transfer to PVP server. Week two, offer transfer to RP server. This however proclaims that there pretty much will be NO RP-PVP server in Europe. Sounds like a failure. Which they do have to look at. Also they have the logistics of making it well publicised so that people can make the right choice.

Conclusion ;

It's really not as simple as people make out. They need to make the right decision. The right decision generally is not a quick one. People scream for answers, the answer was they are discussing the possibilities. It is not a decision that should be taken lightly. There is no quick fix. Just read this thread, see the back-biting and hate and realise that whatever solution will cause people complaining.

Criticism fine. As it should be, be constructive if you want to actually continue playing the game. If you are unsubbing, fine, have a little dignity to go with it. Explain rationally why and then do it or don't. The 'I'm unsubbing unless x happens by date y' makes things look a little childish. Get a grip.

TLDR. Then don't bother commenting . If you haven't read it and only read a sentence then you are taking out of context.

Rational thoughts people.

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Drom
06.19.2012 , 05:42 PM | #226
Lamech: are you trying to suggest that they had not enough time to decide? Not enough time??? The transfer system is way more tam month old! a month! How long do you need for this simple problem to solve?
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joeypesci
06.19.2012 , 05:49 PM | #227
I'm starting to think BW's Customer Support or Customer Relations are made up of trainee politicians.



I'm still on the picket line waiting for my transfer.
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grezgorz
06.19.2012 , 07:01 PM | #228
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post
Hi folks, as promised, I have a bit of an update. We are still examining this unique situation with the three European RP-PvP servers and we are working on various possible scenarios and what their impact will be. Rest assured that we will communicate to you as soon as we have the most optimal scenario. Thank you for your continued patience with this.
Players on RP servers are probably the most passionate about reserving their character names, yet it's the RP players that get last pick after everyone else has already taken the best names? Truth be told: server transfers have been a negative experience for me. My guild is gone to a server that is in another time zone. If I follow them, I lose my favourite names and will have to put up with higher latency. Sure there will be more people to play with, but overall, it would be a worse experience for me. My server has gone from medium population to low. It's a lose-lose situation.

I'm hoping there will be another round of free transfers and I'll be lucky enough to have my server chosen as a destination server, but it's looking more and more like I'll eventually be forced into a merger where I lose my character names that I reserved the minute I was able to log in for early access. That's not really a good way to treat a customer who pre-ordered the CE as soon as it became available and recommended your game and company to friends by word of mouth.

Just off the top of my head, in the interest of providing constructive criticism, here is my suggestion for a more equitable way of handling the server consolidation going forward:

New, empty servers are launched.
Everyone has the same chance to log in and reserve their character names with placeholder characters.

Turn on free transfers to new servers based on server type (PvE, PvP, RP, RP-PvP) as well as data center!
*Important* I don't want to have to choose between staying on a dead server and transferring to a laggy one.

Once a server fills up to desired population, turn off free transfers.

This way at least those of us who weren't lucky enough to have started out on one of the chosen destination servers in round one will not be forced to choose between giving up our character's name and playing on a deserted server.

Thanks for reading.

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DizzyrupTor
06.19.2012 , 07:04 PM | #229
I am seriously questioning the point of posting in this thread anymore.

We finally get a new moderator post at 10:48pm, only again this one tells us nothing except that they are removing posts that they dont like.

HOW ABOUT SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT IS HAPPENING

If they spent as much time fixing the problem as they do weeding out posts they dont agree with we would have the server either at full pop by now or be finally moved off it.

If they are truly listening to us BW can we have somone give us some kind of progress report.

This post is simply asking for information. No lies have been told, no trolling done so no need to remove it like the last one.

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Avicii
06.19.2012 , 07:36 PM | #230
Quote: Originally Posted by grezgorz View Post
Players on RP servers are probably the most passionate about reserving their character names, yet it's the RP players that get last pick after everyone else has already taken the best names? Truth be told: server transfers have been a negative experience for me. My guild is gone to a server that is in another time zone. If I follow them, I lose my favourite names and will have to put up with higher latency. Sure there will be more people to play with, but overall, it would be a worse experience for me. My server has gone from medium population to low. It's a lose-lose situation.

I'm hoping there will be another round of free transfers and I'll be lucky enough to have my server chosen as a destination server, but it's looking more and more like I'll eventually be forced into a merger where I lose my character names that I reserved the minute I was able to log in for early access. That's not really a good way to treat a customer who pre-ordered the CE as soon as it became available and recommended your game and company to friends by word of mouth.

Just off the top of my head, in the interest of providing constructive criticism, here is my suggestion for a more equitable way of handling the server consolidation going forward:

New, empty servers are launched.
Everyone has the same chance to log in and reserve their character names with placeholder characters.

Turn on free transfers to new servers based on server type (PvE, PvP, RP, RP-PvP) as well as data center!
*Important* I don't want to have to choose between staying on a dead server and transferring to a laggy one.

Once a server fills up to desired population, turn off free transfers.

This way at least those of us who weren't lucky enough to have started out on one of the chosen destination servers in round one will not be forced to choose between giving up our character's name and playing on a deserted server.

Thanks for reading.
I mostly agree the names don't concern as much as the different data center what they did/are doing to two RP-PvP servers isn't right and they should've planned ahead. They are not technically limited to server type and I have a response saying here is the reasoning "At this time, however, we are currently processing the free transfers according to server type, to ensure that players can join similar communities and preserve their preferred play type."

Their foresight is horrible as is the customer service it took 6 tickets/emails to get a response after I unsubbed due to my character being virtually unplayable because of BWs complete lack of concern or communication.