Why Macros belong in TOR.

wrong...IN SO MANY WAYS..specially with the clueless misunderstanding of how the dispel macro actualy works

not even gona comment on the fact that u actualy believe that people at a competitive level use macros the randomly disple a team member...just ROFL



anyway like i posted before


MACROS CAN BE DONE IN THIS GAME in other ways until they implement it(and they will..because only the sub par underachievers that blame everything in the game before judging their own skill are against macros.

U can have the best macros in the world..and jsut liek it happens in wow U WILL STILL NOT SUCCEED jsut like when u had no macros...MACROS ARE NOT RELATED TO SKILL.

Macros improve your gameplay and allow you to adapt ur UI to ur personal preferences,PLUS IT ALLOWS FOR FASTER GAME PLAY AND BETTER RESPONSIVENESS of the sistem.

i have had macros in swtor since day 1!!!NO WARNINGS NOT BANS AND NOT RAZOR EQUIPMENT

heres how u do it


1:download AutoHotKey
2:google "how to make simple key macros
3:use brain
4:code ur macro in a Wordpad file
5:run the macro/script with AutoHotKey
6rofit


u can make MOUSE OVER HEAL MACROS...MOUSE OVER CHARGE MACROS...TRINKET+ADRENAL+SELF BUFF IN 1 KEY MACROS..etcetc...pretty much any macro u used in other games...


ITS NOT BANNABLE!,like i said been using it since day one...BASICALY UR DOING THE SAME THING PEOPLE WITH RAZOR NAGA MOUSE AND KEYBOARD DO THRU RAZOR SOFTWARE...exact same thing....





ps-To the "chalenged" person saying people that defend macros are the ones that mock keyboard turning and clicking...guess what..YOU ARE RIGHT! because clicking and keyboard turning are BAD at a competitive level..u will not EVER get on the same level of people that bind...so obviously people that try their best to improve game play and game speed with macros will obviously tell you that keyboard turning and clicking are terrible..

After going back and rereading the original post, it really doesn't seem like the OP is really asking for macros. It sounds more like he's asking for a modifier key that lets his next ability cast be cast on his focus target, or on the target he has his mouse over. Maybe it's just me, but those don't sound like macros to me and would be something that I support.

I can see its usefulness in several places. Even minimally like /party /ops /say macros in certain situations like ops where you have instructions and don't have voice over ip it's nice to have a button you can assign a phrase to say to prep people. If you've done an op enough times you could even have one to give rundowns on the op as people join instead of having to repeat yourself over and over. In PVP a reminder to vote before they leave etc. I can see it helping a lot for healers if you had targetting macros too. If we had seperate targetting for healing and damaging like some games it would be better I though.
Macros definately have a place in this game, it just needs to be implented.
The big issue will be finding free slots to assign such things.

also let me illustrate the "agaisnt macros" crowd

to be aware of macros i take it u played some other games..pvp wise at least...
i would bet the majority of you would come from a WOW background..so ill use Wow as an example

so:

they go arenas..and strugle to reach 1600...they google a bit..research abit..and find out about macros that improve gameplay.

they copy paste some macros..get used to them..and get back into arena...


"*** i still cant go over 1600 rating"

"might as well give up on the macros and add macros to the lsit of things i blame for my unsuccessful ratings"

so that would be " OMG CLASS INBALANCE...OMG GEAR FARM...OMG GEAR UNBALANCE..OMG MY CLASS SUCKS..OMG my TEAM M8s CLASS SUCK...OMG MACROS ARE OP" and eventually..'OMG THIS GAME SUCKS IM GONA QUIT AND GO SWTOR"

Well after googling a "dispel macro" I still stand by the fact that you are less skilled for using macros (i.e. not really playing competitively, but letting the computer play competitively for you).

Rather than having to select your target, and then dispel them you press a single button. Consider you have two healers in your group, one using macros and one not. Both healers recognize that party member 1 needs a dispel, the healer without macros selects party member one and casts his dispel. The healer with macros casts his dispel player 1 macro.

How can you possibly think it took more skill to do half the work?

Maybe I'm just an old school gamer and think hand eye coordination should still be part of the equation.

You may want to try and think beyond your world of warcraft experience and adapt to the game at hand.

dude the eye coordination is EXACTLY the same

u still need to look into the frames...realise who needs a dispel and then take action..the only diference is the CLICKING involved..and when its an overall understanding that CLICKING is bad in pvp because it DELAYS your actions, logicaly having a macro that lets u dispel the PARTY 1 player will amke it faster and mroe efective then CLIKING and therefore better...Now,where is the "LESS SKILL" in that,because as i see it :

1:clicking takes no more skill then tapping a key since the awareness,eye coordination and understanding of the game has to be the same

2:clicking is ACTUALY less skiled then having a bind,since it will take u more time to perform ur actions...and fast reactions = PVP

The only game I ever played that had macros was Anarchy Online, and since I played some class with 3 pets (Meta-physicist I think?), it was quite helpful to have those macros:

- One button that would set my heal pet to target and then heal me
- One button that would set my heal pet to target and then heal my attacking pet
- One button that would set my heal pet to heal my current target
- One button that would set my attacking pet to attack whatever I was attacking
- One button that would set my attacking pet to attack whatever was attacking my character
- One button that would set my mezzing pet to mezz whoever was attacking my healing pet, under the condition that my attacking pet wasn't already attacking it
- One button that would set my mezzing pet to mezz whoever was attacking my character, under the condition that my attacking pet wasn't already attacking it

etc.

Mind you, without macros, this class would have been a pain to play. The class already took a good number of macromanaging your three pets around, plus your own character, but having to try to target each pet and then having all their abilities on the quickbar at once, coupled with my own abilities, it'd be literal nightmare.

In SWTOR, I can't think of too many ways to use macros. Obviously a button that targets your character, and self-casts heals, probably a button that selects and heals the target of your focus target, etc. I think it'd be more useful for healers than any other class. Not even sure what I'd use for macros on my Marauder or Sniper other than maybe popping all relics+adrenal at the same time, or using Undying Rage followed by Rakata Medpack, etc.

I've heard someone speak of "Prioritizing abilities", which was described as one button that would try to do the highest priority move first, then the second, then third, etc, until it found a move it could use. I'm not sure if WoW had this, but these kinds of macros seem a bit too easy, however.

See, here's where I disagree with the easy vs skilled debate: If you do your research and learn/practice the proper skills you ARE a better player. macros will never allow someone to approach the skill level of someone who sounds as devoted to their own performance as you are. I don't care how good your programming skills are, being able to move away from bad, being able to face the correct direction, having a sense of timing and knowing how to handle mob abilities, these things are the hallmark of a skilled and competent player.

I cannot wrap my brain around WHY you care if someone else uses something you feel is 'easy mode'. Unless we're grouped together, or competing for an ops spot NOTHING I do while playing effects you.

There are a TON of games that have varying levels of difficulty. A lot of them rely on the person playing it to pick the level of challenge they want.

Other then an emotional distaste for 'easy mode' in your MMO, do you have any logical, factual evidence (let's get specific in detail here) that demonstrates macros ruin the game? What have you seen that causes you to believe this? When was the last time you saw someone in a game that supports macros really be a top performer when they program their character instead of play it?

I use macros and have been sense day one (Razer Naga), macros not only lets me enjoy the game more but also increases my skill, so in other words yes macros make you better then someone without, that being said I can play without macros but I just don't see the reason, if macros help me enjoy my game more then I see no problem so long as it's not cheating or botting.

Playing with macros helps me free up keybinds and lets my me focus more on what matters, that being the game play, to me nothing is more boring or un-fun then have to play whack-O-mole, Swtor is one of those game that without macros I won't even bother playing, so Bioware can send a big fat "Thank You" letter to Razer for keeping me around for the last 6 months.

I don't give a rats *** if some of you don't think macros should not be in the game and the reason is why do you even care? play your game and I will play mine I don't tell anyone how to play your game, on that note Bioware should add macros for the ones that choose to you them and for the players that don't like macros "DON"T USE THEM", you people sound like the same old people telling gays that they should not marry because you don't like it , basically mind your own ******* business if it's not hurting you don't worry about it.