Lost island HM, lol seriously Bioware?

the problem is that people use gear for an excuse here. you actually don't take all that much damage as a tank regardless in the LR-5 fight, and even an undergeared healer should keep you up in sav-rak as long as the tank keeps the boss pointed away from everyone else. the only real "gear check" fight is lorrick's second phase, and even then, it's more about "up time" than pure DPS (if you're getting knocked back or losing aggro and getting your raid interrupted, it's going to screw up your up-time and make it impossible to finish before the DOT crushes everyone). i hate to tell people L2P because it's not always constructive, but i've seen people in full rakata wipe the **** out of LI and i've tanked it wearing half columi, half tionese. it's a mechanics check, as many people here have said.

when i first did this flashpoint i was in 1-2 pieces of column and the rest tionese but the rest of my group was full campaign and i got every single drop and i used every single piece so i wasn't complaining at all. But i think the point of this flashpoint is to get BH gear via the Rakghoul weekly,

Didn't read the thread.

I agree the rewards are inadequate, but since our group cleared it in full columi and you're hitting enrage at full rakata, I'd say your dps isn't pulling their weight.

It can be repeated and a good group can down this in less than an hour. It's a great way to gear out alts. I've run through melee DPS in here with recruit gear and gotten them Rakata chest and Columni pieces which is pretty good TBH.

I didn't read every page of this thread because it's ludicrous. If the main concern here is loot/difficulty, take a second and realize that you also get Black Hole commendations weekly for running this and Kaon. I ran this (Full Rakata, some Black Hole/Campaign) as a Shadow Tank, with a Gunslinger healer in similar gear, with 2 Sage DPS wearing recruit pvp gear. Literally had about 12k hp each. We cleared the FP in about an hour with only 2 wipes. The first on the 2nd boss, and the second on a bad trash mob pull by one of the noob Sages.


TLR - Geared and too hard? Practice, you suck.
TLR - Loot not good enough? Black Hole Commendations.

That first boss in HM is really difficult, especially for groups that are heavy melee. I haven't done that flashpoint in hardmode very much, just a few times. I did learn how to do it with a melee group though. The melee has to stack on the tank on the center platform. I move corner to corner as the lightning fields drop. It is tankable that way, but still very tough. It is almost like a four man raid.

Second boss with a melee group is really all about the tank. If the tank knows how to move and interrupt incinerate, its pretty easy. If he/she doesn't then it becomes a nightmare.

Lucky I get to run it each week with a guardian tank and that knows how to move. We always do it with me(sentinel) , a sage or commando healer(depends which one is available, commando has an easier time on the droid, while sage has an easier time on sav rak) and another sentinel. Generally now it doesn't take us longer then 35-45 minutes to clear it. First few times was quite hard thought.

The first boss in LI is difficult, if you take melee. Last night we went through (second attempt) and finished the place we had a Marauder (me) and a Sorc dps, BH tank and Op heals. The first time we went we took two melee and it was rough.

I agree, the loot appears to be a little undercooked, but when you look at it you get Black Hole tokens, and Rakata chest piece from the last boss. That's what it's for I believe. I will say this about the place; it made me question my dps and start trying to study it more.

You can't really go in there half baked and expect to win, you have to make no mistakes. Most if not everything needs to be interrupted.

None of us had any Rakata. A couple of us had Tionese pieces still. It is difficult and I like that.

Saying that though... I do wish there was a little something extra from the place. Perhaps a pet, unique colour crystal... some vanity thing that people would want. We hit the enrage timer on the bonus boss and he killed us a couple of times before we got it and all he dropped was a garbage relic. That guy would be an ideal candidate for something cool (mount, crystal, pet, unique looking orange gear, pazaak cards... oh wait ahem sorry).

I think BW just needs to use a little more imagination with these things, and perhaps think a little bit more about them.

Get ur DPS up and learn boss mechanics. it's just movement intensive.

guided speedkills: http://swtormovies.com/movieview.php?id=3681

Don't see the massive difficulty people are talking about..
Its easy enough if you have tactics down and have the right people with you.
2nd boss is a complete cakewalk if you know the strat