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Why Macros belong in TOR.

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Why Macros belong in TOR.

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Riiquiem
06.15.2012 , 02:57 AM | #831
Everything you can do with macros you can do with your own hands.
If not simply L2P. Macros shouldn't be a part of PVP.. ever!
I don't care about the PVE kids, since there is no challenge without macros it can't get any easier anyway.

Imo they can add macros but it should get deactivated as soon as joining a wz.
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Kontraz
06.15.2012 , 02:59 AM | #832
I just want a macro that allows me to yell SHORYUKEN!!! everytime my BH uses rocket punch. It gets annoying trying to type that fast enough to sync it with the animation in a warzone >_<

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Orangerascal
06.15.2012 , 02:59 AM | #833
holy necro'd thread batman.
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FourTwent
06.15.2012 , 03:05 AM | #834
This issue is really two pronged in my opinion.

First is the quest of whether SWTOR should have combat macros. Same thing with Addons in my opinion. Having these healbots do everything for the player so they literally dont have to do anything but move out of the fire. This is a HORRIBLE game design and should NOT be allowed in SWTOR EVER. Same thing with offensive combat rotation macros. Instead of actually training yourself to learn a rotation you just look up the 'max dps rotation' decided by the math and then just plug it into the game. Again this is a horrible game design and shouldn't be allowed in the game.

Then you have the out of combat macros like hitting your defensive cooldown(like a shield) and then mounting your speeder. Or hitting one button to activate an adrenal and a relic at the same time. This is something I could see the developers doing but being really strict about when and where you can do something like this.

Now, on top of both of those issues, you also end up creating a HUGE barrier of entry into the game. Whether it's PvE or PvP. Think of yourself as a BRAND new WoW player(not a hardcore one, but a casual one). They will never look up anything about a macro yet because they dont have them setup, not only is PvP incredibly harder(they have to press 10 keys what you only have to press 1 to do), but also for PvE(if the devs dont balance the raids to efficient macro use, then the content is too easy for the people who use them. . .and if they do, then it's too hard for the people who dont use macros).

The idea is GREAT for hardcore players of the game, assuming the devs balance everything around them. Else the hardcore player will just think the game is too boring and will move on.

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snaplemouton
06.15.2012 , 03:08 AM | #835
Can we stop bumping this 2011 thread up please?
Macros are good blablabla. Macros are bad blablabla.
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Calpin
06.15.2012 , 03:29 AM | #836
Please no nested loops bandwidth lag-generating marcoes.

It will not do anyone any good.....or maybe it will benefit the first
person who gets to use it for a very limited period of time.

In PVP it's really a no! no!
Real 3D space combat system please!
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ThorgrimLutgen
06.15.2012 , 03:35 AM | #837
Quote: Originally Posted by CoreofexisteNz View Post
I love the fact that casuals still come here and hate on macros.

Obviously never used them.

In lineage 2 it was impossible past certain levels not to have macros since most skills bounce into others and vice versa. Especially for buffers who would haveto cast 53 buffs in order to buff someone... and then again for the other 8 people in the group. tedious... long and very unnecessary.


The macro system makes life alot easier.. the longer the macros the harder it can fail however if you have a 1 macro attack string of all your attacks in sequence... 1 interrupt and you start all over again. So.

To sum up. Macro's can only help you. They cannot win for you. An interrupt, a stun, a cancel will break the flow anyway.

I shall support the adding of macro's and let all nay-sayers get their casual asses back to newbie forums!

EDIT: To be fair i've been using my mouse and keyboard macros to essentially already do all of that but a global system should only make it easier(alt+tabbing to change add and fix macros? yea i'll prefer to do without )
You can tart it up however you want, put people down for not wanting macros etc, but the bottom line is, you want macros to make your life easier.

This game is already too easy. I don't want to heal warzones at the same time as making a cup of tea, I want to play the game, win or lose, I want to do it myself, not have a bandaid helping me along.

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Kontraz
06.15.2012 , 04:00 AM | #838
Lets compare macros to sex, shall we? Playing this game is fun and rewarding when you do it well. Having sex is fun and rewarding if you do it well. Letting everyone use macros is like tossing your girlfriend a vibrator and considering it good sex.

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LenrocNewDawn
06.15.2012 , 04:48 AM | #839
Quote: Originally Posted by Kontraz View Post
Lets compare macros to sex, shall we? Playing this game is fun and rewarding when you do it well. Having sex is fun and rewarding if you do it well. Letting everyone use macros is like tossing your girlfriend a vibrator and considering it good sex. No it doesn't counts you are holding it
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karnyboy
06.15.2012 , 06:08 AM | #840
Nah, learn to play man. Macros aren't a quality of life issue in the game. You can do all that stuff by targeting and ...you know...pressing the required key for the skill.

Macros basically make a players sense of awareness drop over time. You should be agile with your fingers on the keyboard, know your layout, and use your mouse hand for the things you need to do. Macros make for lazy players.

Do they help, without a doubt, but are they needed? No.