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Confirmed: SWTOR to have micro-transactions/in-game purchases

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Confirmed: SWTOR to have micro-transactions/in-game purchases

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SolHalcon
06.13.2012 , 11:16 PM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by Cordelia View Post
Buying raid gear IS a pay to win model. It would be buying a piece of gear that gave you an advantage. No MMO curently does that and I don't imagine this one will be any different. If you can buy gear at all it would probably purely cosmetic, certainly without stats.
UMM yes thay do have the pay to win model. STO sells the best ships at the C-Store, and Battlestar Galactica online is all about selling cubits so you can upgrade. I've seen people spend thousands in BGO. Big Point has the micro transaction art mastered....more like macro transactions there.

I just hope that if EA does this its limited to fluff.
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Rafaman
06.13.2012 , 11:18 PM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by clintcasey View Post
I checked Yahoo's sources. This isn't credible.

The guy who wrote the article was citing an investment report dated 3/10/2010. That was more than 2 years ago, and in terms of the source of the information, the report was created by an outside company.

None of his other sources support the claims made, although I don't doubt that there will be some form of micro-transactions in the future.

Take the article with a grain of salt.
Par for the course, unfortunately. Some news services do repackage news drawing from old sources. Not a huge deal, but to the hypersensitive contingent here? Earth shattering.

Also, I'd like to add that press releases of any type aren't necessarily indicative of the final outcome. Let me be clear, I'm not saying they are blatant lies based on the companies own self interest. I am saying that they have a goal in mind with the press release and those goals can and do change. While a cash shop may have made sense with the game was the darling of the discriminate gamer, it may not make sense now.

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Shingara
06.13.2012 , 11:18 PM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by SolHalcon View Post
UMM yes thay do have the pay to win model. STO sells the best ships at the C-Store, and Battlestar Galactica online is all about selling cubits so you can upgrade. I've seen people spend thousands in BGO. Big Point has the micro transaction art mastered....more like macro transactions there.

I just hope that if EA does this its limited to fluff.
I can agree with the STO part, what peeved me off was the one sided way cryptic did it ( yes i was KDF) but i would say based on other EA mt's it will only be fluff if they ever even do this. I see this stuff on here only being Recruit a friend items like the new mount and micro trans like char slots and possibly races and server xfers.
Health Warning - Thread May Contain Nuts.
First, you can continue as a subscriber, which gives you unlimited access to all game features and future Game Updates at no additional charge. http://www.swtor.com/info/news/blog/20120731

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Lt_Latency
06.13.2012 , 11:20 PM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
So you have the official figures do you or are you guestimating, and fatman is the entire game is it. And this is a lucas arts EA game, if this ends up with 500k subscribers it will have an epic expantion, you just have to look at the stuff thats come from patchs to see that.

And EA is a bigger fish then just bioware, everyone has layed off staff including blizzard. And if you want to look for warning signs from anywhere look at no blizzcon and vivienda considering selling blizzard activision.
You just watch the numbers. We used to have 230 as good number on fleet,

Then it got to the point where we never broke 170 which was about when I stopped play, Even thought we were contantly getting people talking about how they just re-rolled to our surver, We should have been going up with the amount of people comming over to our server if we were stable.

On xfire SW:ToR used to have about 15% of the total play time for MMOs, They now have 5% in a given day.

The numbers are not exzact but sighns point to a pretty big drop

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Leggomy
06.13.2012 , 11:20 PM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by Rafaman View Post
Par for the course, unfortunately. Some news services do repackage news drawing from old sources. Not a huge deal, but to the hypersensitive contingent here? Earth shattering.

Also, I'd like to add that press releases of any type aren't necessarily indicative of the final outcome. Let me be clear, I'm not saying they are blatant lies based on the companies own self interest. I am saying that they have a goal in mind with the press release and those goals can and do change. While a cash shop may have made sense with the game was the darling of the discriminate gamer, it may not make sense now.
Omg again with this. How the heck is this from 2010 when #1 this game didnt even exist then. #2 how did they know somehow at E3 they would announce f2p? How would they know anything about E3 2012. For pete's sake read the article my good man.

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Shingara
06.13.2012 , 11:27 PM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by Lt_Latency View Post
You just watch the numbers. We used to have 230 as good number on fleet,

Then it got to the point where we never broke 170 which was about when I stopped play, Even thought we were contantly getting people talking about how they just re-rolled to our surver, We should have been going up with the amount of people comming over.

On xfire SW:ToR used to have about 15% of the total play time for MMOs, They now have 5% in a given day.

The numbers are not exzact but sighns point to a pretty big drop
Lets look at this from this perspective shall we, we all know that people came to the game and wanted specific features and left until those were in, some others left simply to wait for more content like ranked pvp. The main features people wanted were group finder, xfers and ranked pvp and those are coming.

So without those features the active played hours will have dropped as its quality of life people were wanting, nothing todo with quality of the game just the access they had within it.

There is another sect of people who came from swg and want to have the sandbox feeling they had there and whilst they might not have it now there is every chance they will have in the future even if not to the full degree they want.

But lets look at the market, WoW is putting all its eggs on pandas and the new talents system, now alot of people dont like the talents but are willing to try it simply because they are locked into annual subs and the fact they have so many years investied into wow. Then we have the whole real money market which no one knows how you pay tax on it which should scare everyone.

Add to this D3 has been majorly hacked to the point where on the phone support it has its own section and department to sort it out. With this vivienda considering selling blizzard, thats not just wow, thats starcraft, diablo and the secret titan project which doesnt say alot about the new titan project.
Health Warning - Thread May Contain Nuts.
First, you can continue as a subscriber, which gives you unlimited access to all game features and future Game Updates at no additional charge. http://www.swtor.com/info/news/blog/20120731

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Skoobie
06.13.2012 , 11:28 PM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy View Post
Omg again with this. How the heck is this from 2010 when #1 this game didnt even exist then. #2 how did they know somehow at E3 they would announce f2p? How would they know anything about E3 2012. For pete's sake read the article my good man.
People were still talking about the game in 2010, and as mentioned many times, this information about the MT's has been out there...since 2010.

The article is not from 2010, but the info about MT's is. And then they are combining that info with the info about the f2p TRIAL (needs to be said, since you keep alluding to the whole game going f2p) in the article written in 2012.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

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Blackardin
06.13.2012 , 11:28 PM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by Celebrus View Post
I don't seem to recall wow going to f2p to 20 until what, 5+ years into it's life?

Small difference, but it's ok, you're good at ignoring things.

I don't think we should be comparing this game to WoW, in any way, unless we're also willing to point out the fact that this game is on par with wow from 2006. Which wasn't f2p to 20 I might add. And also wasn't busy transmerging.

You're right about one thing though, delusional is all over this piece.
Didn't ignore it, Chief. It's not relevant. They both do it. However, wow had the scroll of resurrection, free 10 day trail during Vanilla. It's become SOP. It is called, a loss leader. Its the same principle utilized in retail sales.

OIne certainly can compare the game to wow, same industry, same genre. Wow is the largest and most successful game in the business. Of course it will be the bench mark by which other games are compared.

Really now. Someone takes a single news release about vanity items and free trials and extrapolates that to free to play situation? We have moved well beyond nonsense.
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kiddeth
06.13.2012 , 11:30 PM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by LukeSaberRattler View Post
I don't remember them ever saying anything about micro-transactions or an in-game store. And this isn't going free to play more like a extended demo as you can play the full game until your character reaches lvl 15 at which point you have to pay the subscription fee to continue leveling your character.
This is what I took from the article as well.
So what does this key unlock.........I hope it's a chastity belt.

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Lt_Latency
06.13.2012 , 11:32 PM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
Lets look at this from this perspective shall we, we all know that people came to the game and wanted specific features and left until those were in, some others left simply to wait for more content like ranked pvp. The main features people wanted were group finder, xfers and ranked pvp and those are coming.

So without those features the active played hours will have dropped as it quality of life people were wanting, nothing todo with quality of the game just the access they had within it.

There is another sect of people who came from swg and want to have the sandbox feeling they had there and whilst they might not have it now there is every chance they will have in the future even if not to the full degree they want.

But lets look at the market, WoW is putting all its eggs on pandas and the new talents system, now alot of people dont like the talents but are willing to try it simply because they are locked into annual subs and the fact they have so many years investied into wow. Then we have the whole real money market which no one knows how you pay tax on it which should scare everyone.

Add to this D3 has been majorly hacked to the point where on the phone support it has its own section and department to sort it out. With this vivienda considering selling blizzard, thats not just wow, thats starcraft, diable and the secret titan project which doesnt say alot about the new titan project.
I'm pretty sure blizzard is fine.

They have the number 1 played MMO
They number 1 played action RPG Diablo
They have the numer 1 played RTS star craft.

Even if WoW loses 1/2 it's players it still has more players then this and it requires less resources to maintain No VO, No cuteses

If they are in trouble no one is safe.


They are just slowing trying to add features to this game that WoW already has to make the game playable here. They need content to make people drool over, Not features the most MMOs already have,