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Will you resubscribe to SWTOR after 1.3?

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Will you resubscribe to SWTOR after 1.3?

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Vycwulf
06.11.2012 , 09:39 PM | #161
Well, I use timecards so sub/unsub doesn't apply. But, doubtful I will buy another one till open world pvp is fixed. I get tired of pve ops extremely quick and acutally have played in very few of them in this game. Open world, like Ilum fixed, would at least make me buy another card to have some fun for a bit, but going to 4 warzones just to grind gear to go to those 4 warzones gets to be tedious.

Finding myself logging in less and less these days, there's my sign.

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Mythmansup
06.11.2012 , 10:52 PM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by SarethX View Post
Canceled my sub a few mins ago. So I won't actually be seeing 1.3 and I do not care to.
Smart man.

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Djhots
06.11.2012 , 10:53 PM | #163
I will not unsub. That being said it seems the word is out. If EA/BW really wanted to save this game they wouldn't have laid off a S@#! ton of people. What a bad message to send to the customers. Is it too early to call this game a flop? My server is dead, my veteran top 200 wow guild of 27 strong raiders, 23 of which came over to swtor, is now down to 9 and there is not much to do in the game right now at all. Thus, getting the 9 ppl still playing to log on and clear Denova HM or NiM is difficult to say the least. And don't forget the bevy of alternative games available or on the way. I really hope this game recovers, but if I was a betting man I wouldn't bet on it. All that being said, I will give the game the year I promised it and have fun along the way.

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TalkingDinosaur
06.11.2012 , 10:53 PM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by xeenz View Post
No I will not.
Patch 1.3 offers too little to make me come back. What I want is a major overhaul on Space Combat and OWPvP
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Sammm
06.11.2012 , 11:19 PM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
Maybe because as someone who paid for the service, we are entitled to. Why are you here on the forums instead of playing the game?
Even if I enjoy the game, I still log into the forum because for me it's an important part of my whole SWTOR experience and adventure. Believe it or not, but I really love reading and replying to the different threads, especially in the Community and the General Discussion sections. Also, it gives me the opportunity to discover really cool things like fan arts, hilarious videos, fanmade stories and very useful websites (it's in the forum that I discovered about Dulfy website and some SWTOR podcasts). Finally, it makes me feel more being part of the SWTOR community.

I highly doubt it will happen anytime soon but if one day I'll stop enjoying the game, I'll just quit it. I won't bother coming back into the forum, especially not if it's only for bashing the game, the developers and the forum members. I'd have better things to do.

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Captiosus
06.11.2012 , 11:27 PM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
This game is no different then that. One big grind with some story too it. Once the story ends, its just like WoW. Grind dailies/gear/pvp rank and gear/grind raids. There is nothing else.
Precisely, and I'm not even sure why "story" gets brought up so much.
It's like people seem to forget that Warcraft has a freakin' ton of story lines.

Each major release of Warcraft has an overarching story. Classic was the rise of the Dark Iron Dwarves and Ragnaros and the remnants of the Black Dragonflight with Nefarian. Burning Crusade was the return home of the Orcs and the rise of the Blood Elves (and subsequent betrayal by Kael'Thas). Wrath of the Lich King was the Scourge and Arthas, Cataclysm is the rise of Deathwing and the Black Dragonflight... so on and so on.

I get it that people didn't bother reading quest text in games like Warcraft but that's their fault, not the game's. The amount of lore and story in Warcraft is ridiculous. The idea that TOR is a "story driven" MMO is a complete and utter sham of marketing speak because damn near every MMO is story driven. The only difference is TOR ditched quest text for quest voice overs.

Then you get to end game and find out it's a complete carbon copy of Warcraft's. Anyone who says otherwise either A) hasn't played Warcraft since late Burning Crusade or B) doesn't have a 50 in TOR.

To summarize, end game in both games follows this exact same pattern:
Do dailies, earn tokens, spend tokens on gear. Do weeklies, earn tokens, spend tokens on gear. Do hard mode flashpoints (heroic dunegons in WoW-speak), for gear and tokens; spend tokens on tier gear. Do normal mode operations for gear and tokens; spend tokens on tier gear. Do harder mode versions of operations for gear and tokens; spend tokens on higher tier gear. PVP for PVP-based tokens, spend PVP-tokens on PVP gear.

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pairadox
06.12.2012 , 12:28 AM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Captiosus View Post
Precisely, and I'm not even sure why "story" gets brought up so much.
It's like people seem to forget that Warcraft has a freakin' ton of story lines.

Each major release of Warcraft has an overarching story. Classic was the rise of the Dark Iron Dwarves and Ragnaros and the remnants of the Black Dragonflight with Nefarian. Burning Crusade was the return home of the Orcs and the rise of the Blood Elves (and subsequent betrayal by Kael'Thas). Wrath of the Lich King was the Scourge and Arthas, Cataclysm is the rise of Deathwing and the Black Dragonflight... so on and so on.

I get it that people didn't bother reading quest text in games like Warcraft but that's their fault, not the game's. The amount of lore and story in Warcraft is ridiculous. The idea that TOR is a "story driven" MMO is a complete and utter sham of marketing speak because damn near every MMO is story driven. The only difference is TOR ditched quest text for quest voice overs.

Then you get to end game and find out it's a complete carbon copy of Warcraft's. Anyone who says otherwise either A) hasn't played Warcraft since late Burning Crusade or B) doesn't have a 50 in TOR.

To summarize, end game in both games follows this exact same pattern:
Do dailies, earn tokens, spend tokens on gear. Do weeklies, earn tokens, spend tokens on gear. Do hard mode flashpoints (heroic dunegons in WoW-speak), for gear and tokens; spend tokens on tier gear. Do normal mode operations for gear and tokens; spend tokens on tier gear. Do harder mode versions of operations for gear and tokens; spend tokens on higher tier gear. PVP for PVP-based tokens, spend PVP-tokens on PVP gear.
Apparently some people like the exact same grind over and over and over and over again.
And herein lies the problem. There is absolutely nothing to keep you logging back in, once you finish raids.

Dont get me wrong, Im not saying other games are light years ahead, but I am saying that other games seem to be acknowledging and working on this problem. Deep customization of character appearance, alot more thought into open world pvp, housing, and other areas are all being considered in an effort to expand the reason to continue to log on.

Until this gets addressed in TOR... people will keep leaving.
Once you've done whatever is the flavor of the month activity. Why log back on?
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MastaKorgy
06.19.2012 , 12:06 AM | #168
I am currently a subscriber but I may not always be. One of the things working on my nerves currently is that I want to play a game where I can get access to all areas of the game somehow. I did pre-order the game, but had nowhere near enough money to buy the collectors edition and get the special in game items from it. When I go to the republic fleet, I would very much like to go into the VIP area on Carrick Station. Unfortunately, there is no way for me to do so, and thinking about the fact that the only people who can do that, are the ones who paid so much more for the game upsets me a bit. How about making a series of quests or, or something to grant other players access? The thing is, I want to play a game where I feel included, but I don't really feel too included currently. Also, what enhances the frustration is that the VIP ection is right in the middle of Carrick Station, making it impossible to miss. So it's just a constant reminded all over again.

But for the record, despite the game as a whole being only about half way where I'd want it, I do admit that Bioware has been prompt at delivering new content and patches. This makes me think about what the game wil be like in the future, maybe even see podracing 0--o; and that makes me want to be part of it a bit more.
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somethingwow
06.19.2012 , 12:07 AM | #169
I am, i am a huge star wars fan, i will see this game till the end

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Sindorin
06.19.2012 , 12:31 AM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by xeenz View Post
No I will not.
Patch 1.3 offers too little to make me come back. What I want is a major overhaul on Space Combat and OWPvP
Sorry, but OWPvP is already here. Join a populated server.

Frankly, I love everything about the game tbh.

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