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Will you resubscribe to SWTOR after 1.3?

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Will you resubscribe to SWTOR after 1.3?

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Brool
06.11.2012 , 08:07 AM | #101
nope just reupped my sub for 6 more months.
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Revod
06.11.2012 , 08:11 AM | #102
My wife and I both unsubbed because of the server population issue but our time won't run out until August. That being said, we decided that we wouldn't resub unless things were added that made us want to log in again. 1.3 does not offer these things.

PvP will still need work, space was fun for a while but got old and won't be changing anytime soon, the grind for awful looking gear is a bit much, grinding for cash to switch to better looking gear is laborious, and there are just too many bugs still.

The future still holds promise, so we won't be uninstalling the game and there are always game cards if we want to come back and try some things. What would make us want to resub for the long term? Things like...

- Creative outlets. The music and dance systems in SWG were a great start and could be improved upon. The ABC music system in LOTRO was a godsend to people like me who enjoy performance art. If this were added to SWTOR and something similar done for dance moves, SWTOR would be THE place to be for me. I had a blast being part of a music/dance troupe in SWG that performed in various player cities.

- Free form space. Definately enjoyed SWG's implentation of space including the ability for other players to be with you on your ships using the gun turrets, fix damage, etc. If the rumors are true and this is in the works, that will be a step in the right direction!

- More Mini-games. Social mini games and casinos would be a boon. In the Disney MMO, Pirates of the Carribean for example, players could play poker with each other. Pod Racing would be another great mini game! I loved the Pod Racer game from several years ago...it was a blast!

- Customizable player housing. Enjoyed the SWG system. Do not like my ship being my "house".
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RSLeMire
06.11.2012 , 08:38 AM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by Eillack View Post
I never unsubbed, so I cannot resub.

Here till I go broke or when the game dies years from now.
/concur
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SarethX
06.11.2012 , 08:48 AM | #104
Canceled my sub a few mins ago. So I won't actually be seeing 1.3 and I do not care to.

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boba_fatnik
06.11.2012 , 09:09 AM | #105
i have cancelled my sub a few weeks ago and havnt looked back,i might see whats up months from now but def not anytime soon .My main reasons

1.would be the fact that everything past 50 is the same as ALMost every other bit older mmo and got boring quite quickly ,thers only so many times u can do the same FP/ops without it feeling boring.

2.would be the fact the after 50 thers absolutly no reason to go back to any planets other then to get some datacrons one time and dailys.I expected a game like swtor to have huge sandbox type worlds where u can explore and do w.e, as apposed to having a tiny area to move arnd in that pretty much closed off.

3.alot of people i played with allrdy left and i was on a good pop server so this is juss a side thing more or less but still another reason.
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Sendai_S
06.11.2012 , 09:16 AM | #106
I unsubbed this past Saturday. I have 30 some odd days left on my account that I could play. I haven't logged in at all in since Saturday except to help my Ops Raid group do their raids.

My reasons for unsubbing are numerous but the primary reason is I love Star Wars. This doesn't feel like Star Wars to me. It feels like a copy of another game with a Star Wars theme.

What would make me re-up for more is a long list and because I can, I will.
  • New PVP planet - based off of Dark Age of Camelot's "New Frontiers" RVR revamp that they did. Best. PVP. Ever.
  • End game armor that doesn't look like Lady Gaga designed it.
  • A customer service team that is capable of listening and researching problems instantaneously as well as providing solutions jsut as fast. City of Heroes is a prime example of the best customer service in an MMO that I have ever dealt with.
  • Armor that doesn't change what it looks like when it crosses factions.
  • Set bonuses only built onto the armor plates; retroactive to all original armor.
  • No level cap increases. I don't want to un-sub then decide I want to play again only to learn that I have to level all 4 of my 50's up to 60. I would rather chew my leg off than level them more.
  • A promise that the nerfing will end. That when they do class changes that they will do gradual and subtle changes as opposed to wide sweeping ones. It's much easier to fine tune something with delicacy than it is with a sledgehammer. Taking too much away forces us as players to re-evaluate our attachment to our characters.
  • I will also only come back if I have all my names intact on all my toons. They are as much a part of my love for them as what they are.
  • The game is already getting dumbed down to accomodate what I will only call the "lazier" players. My understanding of the new threat mechanics in 1.3 is that it's too easy to keep aggro now. Why didn't they just lower the taunt cooldown's instead and make them independent of the global cooldown? Wouldn't that have been easier and less damaging to actual gameplay? Anyway, I want a game to engage me. Not be a system of specific skills that I have to hit in order to be optimal everytime.
  • Star Wars used to mean innovation. I'd like to see that again as well.
  • I'm an animator... and I can come up with at least 20 better ways to do the new "project" skill better than they are. That would be helpful too. (My main WAS a shadow... but the nerf isn't my main reason for leaving... it certainly didn't help though...) My personal take on project is that it should be a left handed motion, that underhandedly sweeps up and toward the target, as it does so, the object being tossed (earth colorcoded to the ground texture on planets and various tech on stations and ships) flies straight out of the ground on a direct vector at the target impacting nearly instantaneously. No one listen's to me though.
  • Also, Force wave sucks. Overload is amazing. Force wave feels slower. Overload feels instantaneous. Yet one more reason people probably chose empire over republic.
  • Incentives to balance populations. (Using the New Frontier's model of PVP they could also make this happen - bonuses to the underpopulated realms - tyvm.)
  • Make it fun again. Right now, it's just a lot of repetitive rinse and repeats. We need more ways to make Black Hole comms for example that aren't dependent on always having an ops group or a very specific FP group. Seriously, the first boss in Lost Island HM is soooooo melee DPS unfriendly....
  • I recommend losing all the WoW inspired garbage as well. Experitse is a horrible idea. I have far more fun in 10-49 PVP. I dread level 50 PVP.
  • "Any group can do anything." I recall hearing that more than once. Why is it really tank/dps/dps/heals then?
  • I'd also like the dev's to admit that listening to the players for ideas on how to improve the game is bad. "What people want and what people need are two entirely different things."
  • Also, I would like the devs to note that PVPer's are a minority in these games and that balance issues have to be based solely off PVE. The only effective way to balance for PVP is to have more than one damage table for all the skills... one for PVE and one for PVP - so they can be individually tuned and have no effect on the other aspect of the game.

Clearly design didn't live up to ambition. When I pictured a new Star Wars MMO game back during my days in SWG, I thought of it with more classes than we got, with spies able to travel back and forth from one side to the other to gather intel. With (on open world PVP servers) PVP that wasn't blocked by story planets being one faction only. With an endgame planet that offered PVEer and PVPers a lot of reasons to PVP. GOOD PVP will make even the most stubborn PVE-only types actually PVP. PVP incentives only work on PVEers. PVP for a hardcore PVPer is usually it's own incentive. I imagined it with grand, flowing landscapes that actually changed, with towns that if raided were destroyed and stayed destroyed until a cycle of time passed and it entered a new phase and began to rebuild. The it would be rebuilt and could be destroyed again. Each phase would have quests and different ones based on the phase it was in.

Instead, we got a WoW clone with movie quality cutscenes and ever degenerating class blance issues.

So will I be back? Probably not. But it is Star Wars - so you never know. All I know for sure is that they have GOT to stop putting things on armor that stick out from them. (My sorcerors boots have spurs on them. /foreheadslap)
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TUXs
06.11.2012 , 09:48 AM | #107
Not a chance. 1.3 is weak - VERY weak for a game of this caliber. 1.3 does NOTHING to keep me subscribed or interested in the game...but...the people I play with, do.
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Valhingen
06.11.2012 , 10:03 AM | #108
While we (wife and I) did not unsub since we started (13.12.), I also must say this patch adds little to our excitement. Yeah, lfg tool and transfers are badly needed but they don't improve the game much, they fix things that shouldnt be broken in the first place.
Anyways...still sticking with swtor a little while longer (while having pre-orderd TSW and waiting for GW2). I hope TOR turns out right though eventually so I do not feel the need to unsub - sceptical for now.

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smellmop
06.11.2012 , 10:05 AM | #109
I actually had un-subbed and still had some time left on my account, then got my main copied to the PTS. Logged on and in 2 minutes was in an eight man ranked WZ and having a great time. Logged on to swtor and bought the 3 month sub.
For me being able to roll into warzones with a team vs random others makes pvp so much more fun.

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Revan-the-knight
06.11.2012 , 10:08 AM | #110
ive Tested 1.3, Really Good, not alot of Content, but plenty of Features, Ranked WZs are beast!