LFG Tool. Sitting in queue for an hour

50-70 people on the PTS fleet but no queue pop with the LFG tool. I checked all the boxes trying to get anything to pop. Nothing. The transfers better make the servers pretty big or I expect that tool to be pretty useless. They probably should have just went with a xserver tool.

This is totally wrong. You have to be trolling dude. The average wait time for a random anything in WoW is 15 mins for a dps...allmost instant for a tank or healer.

It couldn't have anything to do with new content and no competition at the time. No, it could never anything like that.

Your so called facts are distorted. WoW saw serious population growth up to the time you've been gratious enough to mention. After that, their subscription base went stagnent, then into decline. Thats a fact.

Cool. You make some good points about the LFG tool in 1.3. But don'nt you think it should work well for all servers to be a successful feature?

It is true they are going back to the easier and quicker dungeon models of WOTLK in MOP. The reasons for this is because the majority of thier player base is casual gamers who want to logon.. run a dungeon..have some fun and logoff because they have ether jobs they need to do or families to spend some time with. There will still be heroic raids and also a new feature called Challenge modes for dungeons for those wanting more of a challenge. BioWare can do the same thing.

Roger that!

And if you don't mind me asking, how does grouping up with complete strangers, who you'll probably never see again (or even hopefully in case of ninjas and/or scrubs) help build a community? At least with a non cross-server LFG, you could hold bad pug members accountable if you choose to, or recruit new members for your guild.

The majority of their player base wants everything now, and with minimal or no effort.

50-70 people on the PTS fleet but no queue pop with the LFG tool. I checked all the boxes trying to get anything to pop. Nothing. The transfers better make the servers pretty big or I expect that tool to be pretty useless. They probably should have just went with a xserver tool.

The biggest MMO in history did try a single server LFG tool, but it was NOT an autogrouping LFD tool. It was much more like the LFG tool the TOR had at release, where you could flag yourself as LFG, but much like TOR, a lot of the instant gratification crowd did not use it because it actually required a modicum of effort. So, it did not have the desired results.

With the second expansion, that MMO did introduce the current LFD system, which is cross server. The instant gratification crowd latched onto that tool quick enough, as it took all the effort out of finding groups. A couple of mouse clicks, and you're queued. Wait for LFG tool to find group, you're autogrouped, autoported to the instance, and then autoported back to where you were. NO EFFORT REQUIRED. And let's not forget the bonus part, if you got autogrouped with someone who wasn't in the latest and greatest raiding tier gear, you could kick them and hope for someone with the latest tier gear.

And people wonder why the cross server LFD tool in that game, which does all the work for you, had better results than that game's single server LFG tool, which required effort, but would have helped had people used it.

Wait wait wait...you got the game ALL Twisted dude. What do you mean
"Expecting BW to jump through hoops for him"???? He Should! Are we NOT paying $15 a month for "Online Services"???? We're doing BW the favor by showing a loyal interest in their game and offering information on what we think will improve the game for the better. It's not Bioware doing US the favor, there's a million other games out but we choose to play this one. Sounds like Stockholm Syndrome to me lol. I talked to a handfull of EA and Bioware Devs at E3 this past week and they all said they have people hired specifically to skim through the forums and keep in touch on every and any little thing so that they can please US, the Member. We've already done our part by subscribing they have to do theirs now. Why should anyone HAVE to reroll?? I rerolled to fatman because I like the game that much, others, are like eff it, not doing a full 50 ALL OVER again and subs drop. Just don't....sit there and be Bioware's B***, if more people were like you nothing around here would get fixed, the devs would just be like EH...whatever problems you got in the game, figure it out, work within it, help yourself.

Thanks for this input. It is factual and some seem to forget BioWare made TOR as a money maker, not to sit back and let it please a small select few. The best way for them to improve TOR and make it even better is to listen to the player's input and then see if thier own internal tracking data shows which to be true. Even the elite hardcore players need to be listened to and provided with content for them. But the more numerous casual players have to be looked after also. I will once again quote this post made by a Blizz moderator as a reference to what I am saying, this was in response to some on thier forums complaining about a feature in the game....

....... "By looking at actual stats, actual progression, time spent playing, where, and to what extent, ... so yes, we absolutely are able to tell without a doubt that the plan we're enacting is actually what players playing the game want and need, and are not just listening to people on the forums."




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