1.3 Makes Raiding HM EC Effectively Worthless

Cant carry set bonus to orange, cosmetic gear unless you have campaign, buddy; so yes "a" still applies after 1.3 After 1.3 you'll only be able to consider BH best in slot when in rakata/columi/tionese shells - doesn't sound like a customized look to me. For "b", the 68 WP mods for consulars are not available in BH gear. And your response for "c" really? NiM EC is going to drop higher rating gear than BH and Campaign.

Make sure you know what you're talking about before you try and be clever.

So, no. You haven't read the thread.

Thanks.

haha - I've read the entire thread and people people are making a big deal out of nothing. Don't be upset just because i had a valid response for every single one of your counterpoints.

I never said it was better than campaign. All along I've that its the same, not better, identical even.

I'll walk you through this very slowly as clearly thats whats required. Please try to follow.

You can get exactly the same mods & enhancements from black hole as you can from campaign. Agreed?

You can strip the armouring, mod and enhancement from your black hole piece. Agreed?

You can place them into a rakata item shell, giving you the rakata set bonus (which is of course the same as the campaign set bonus), and as we've already agreed the stripped out black hole stuff is the same as you can get from campaign. So at this stage our rakata piece has the same stats as a campaign piece, agreed?

Now with 1.3 you can add augments to anything, so we add an augment to our rakata+BH piece, which of course you can also do with your campaign piece, making them still identical, but both BiS. Agreed?

Tell me which part of that you don't understand.

And for the sake of my sanity I'll repeat again: *I am not trying to argue that the rakata+BH is better than campaign, I'm trying to argue that its exactly the same*.

Make sure you know what you're talking about before you try and be clever.

No, you obviously haven't read the thread. Not a single response was valid, not even your comment about some crap and horribly itemized modification that NOBODY in their right mind would EVER want to get for min / maxing. So there goes your non-existent counterpoint.

I assumed this was your sought after mod. Min / maxing dictates taking the POWER heavy version (here) or the CRIT heavy version (here) both of which ARE available through the BH comms.

This is what this thread is about, which you didn't even address:




So take your own advice:

Only reason at this point is for the Campaign offhand (slightly better than the Black Hole one) and the HILT from the Campaign mainhand. Those are NOT sufficient reasons for most of us to focus on HM EC. Heck, those aren't sufficient reasons to focus on Nightmare KP - if you've already got the title.

What's the hilt difference from Rakata, +4 damage rating? Yes - what an amazing improvement!

Only reason at this point is for the Campaign offhand (slightly better than the Black Hole one) and the HILT from the Campaign mainhand. Those are NOT sufficient reasons for most of us to focus on HM EC. Heck, those aren't sufficient reasons to focus on Nightmare KP - if you've already got the title.

What's the hilt difference from Rakata, +4 damage rating? Yes - what an amazing improvement!

Every single response is still valid. Do you acknowledge that the only way to have BIS with BH is with rakata/columi/tionese shells? If so, my first point is valid. Do you acknowledge that the mod you linked is not available in BH? If so, b is still valid. Do you acknowledge that both campaign and BH will be inferior to NiM EC drops? If so, my third point is still valid.

Every single response is still valid.

Do you acknowledge that the only way to have BIS with BH is with rakata/columi/tionese shells? If so, my first point is valid.

Cant carry set bonus to orange, cosmetic gear unless you have campaign, buddy; so yes "a" still applies after 1.3 After 1.3 you'll only be able to consider BH best in slot when in rakata/columi/tionese shells - doesn't sound like a customized look to me.

Do you acknowledge that the mod you linked is not available in BH? If so, b is still valid.

There ARE certain mods/enhancements that are only available through campaign gear. It's all about min/maxing using BOTH BH and Campaign.

Do you acknowledge that both campaign and BH will be inferior to NiM EC drops? If so, my third point is still valid.

How about because it's more enjoyable than steamrolling easy content? And where does your +4 dmg rating come from?

Or since everyone loves BH so miuch - how about the 28 BH comms you get from a HM EC clear. Not to mention, the Mk2/3/4 drops off of every boss. For people who took the time to put it on farm, its by far the most efficient way to gear a guild.