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LFG Tool. Sitting in queue for an hour

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LFG Tool. Sitting in queue for an hour

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chaosdefined
06.09.2012 , 06:05 AM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
There were more arguing against the cross server LFG then for it. Those of us that looked beyond our noses to the fact that it caused more problems then it solved know that it does little beyond filling the instant needs of those that tend to be the most troublesome when using the thing. The last time I queued for the cross server LFG with my dps on wow the wait time was 45 minutes to 2 hours for anything beyond the just released troll dungeons. .
A) You have no proof or evidence which side had more people wanting or against it.

B) So saying that other players are thieves and jerks is not looking down your nose?!

C) It doesn't cause more problems, there are the same amount and quite often the exact same problems as single server. The only difference is queue times.

D) Speaking of, last time I queued as a DPS on WoW at a non-peak time I had to only wait 15 minutes.

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Claybirdious
06.09.2012 , 06:52 AM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by Jenzali View Post
Server transfers are out soon, populations will be much higher than a measly 70 on the fleet.
70 on fleet!!!! No way! I'm lucky if there's 10 on at once!

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Valkirus
06.09.2012 , 06:53 AM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
A) You have no proof or evidence which side had more people wanting or against it.

B) So saying that other players are thieves and jerks is not looking down your nose?!

C) It doesn't cause more problems, there are the same amount and quite often the exact same problems as single server. The only difference is queue times.

D) Speaking of, last time I queued as a DPS on WoW at a non-peak time I had to only wait 15 minutes.
Same here. I think some of these quotes about long wait times are refering ether to the time the tool was not cross server or when cross server was first introduced and had some bugs in it. Also Blizz did add extra incentives for tanks and healers to que up for randoms. This helped a lot with reducing the wait times. Now, the like you said, the average wait times for a dps is 15 mins and allmost instant ques for the tanks and healers.
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TKMaster
06.09.2012 , 06:56 AM | #104
Quote: Originally Posted by Pcolapat View Post
I don't care, Bioware should have known better than this. People on the forums told them that they should have done a xserver tool. they didn't listen. Let it go live and then maybe after four more months of forum QQ they will get it right.
I've sat in LFD in WoW for 4 hours waiting on a tank in prime time more than once.....more than a hundred times most likley, one of the reasons i quit the game.
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sumuji
06.09.2012 , 07:03 AM | #105
Bigger pops don't mean run a FP anytime you want within a matter of minutes. Even on The Fatman playing a healer it can take a while to get a group for some of the mid-range to higher flashpoints. There's only so many healers and tanks wanting to run a specific group content at a time. Cross-server group pairings wouldn't fix this either. The only real way to make more grouping a lot easier would be the ability to switch roles quickly like Rift does whyere it gives most clsses the ability to tank/heal/dps

What LFG will do is expand your pool out from the fleet or include people that don't sit there and constantly read all chat. You can't really argue that it won't making getting in groups easier but it's not going to have you instantly doing whatever you want when you want.

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Valkirus
06.09.2012 , 07:08 AM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by mothear View Post
It's been a few months since I left WoW and then it depended what you wanted to do. If you wanted a Zandalaari or one of the new dungeons 15 mins sounds about right, maybe slightly less, however if you want one of the others (or a specific leveling dungeon) you are way off, in my experience.
Time has a way of distorting stuff. I think your few months is more months than you think. But I know what you are saying. It is the average wait times for "random dungeon or LFR" I am refering to the average wait times of 15 mins for a dps. If you try to pick a specific dungeon, then yeah..your wait times are going to be longer. Recently I did a random dungeon que for my level 54 druid for example and the wait time was like 10 mins as dps. If I wanted to do a specific one, then yeah..the que times would have been longer. But it still beats waiting for over a hour or worse ... not getting any type of group run.
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Valkirus
06.09.2012 , 07:11 AM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by TKMaster View Post
I've sat in LFD in WoW for 4 hours waiting on a tank in prime time more than once.....more than a hundred times most likley, one of the reasons i quit the game.
That had to be before cross server LFG was added. Or possible it was when they first came out with the tool. There were some cases of players getting bugged then. I did have that happen on occasion. What you had to do was drop the que and reque. But that is not the case now.
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mothear
06.09.2012 , 07:18 AM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
Time has a way of distorting stuff. I think your few months is more months than you think. But I know what you are saying. It is the average wait times for "random dungeon or LFR" I am refering to the average wait times of 15 mins for a dps. If you try to pick a specific dungeon, then yeah..your wait times are going to be longer. Recently I did a random dungeon que for my level 54 druid for example and the wait time was like 10 mins as dps. If I wanted to do a specific one, then yeah..the que times would have been longer. But it still beats waiting for over a hour or worse ... not getting any type of group run.
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Shouku
06.09.2012 , 07:18 AM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by Pcolapat View Post
50-70 people on the PTS fleet but no queue pop with the LFG tool. I checked all the boxes trying to get anything to pop. Nothing. The transfers better make the servers pretty big or I expect that tool to be pretty useless. They probably should have just went with a xserver tool.
There is one more very serious factor to this that I have not seen brought up by anyone on these forums or BW. I have been playing MMOs since original Everquest launch and what I am referring to is unprecedented in any of these types of games, this is the 1st one.

Simply put, players are just too "demoralized" to group by now. They waited for too long by now. I am on what is now a low pop server, used to be 2nd highest pop in my region at launch. On the very rare occasion that I have grouping opportunities, except guild WZs and Guild Ops, I decline them because I am just so worn down from all the related drama here. I also talked to guildies and other regulars I play with and it turns out most people have actually become like me.

So you may be experiencing this even though there are people available, and miss grouping, it may simply be too late in SWTOR.

They should not have waited this long, these things unfortunately should have been in at game launch, or at latest, patch 1.1. Now its all too little too late.

While I will give 1.3 a try, this factor, along with the upcoming Jedi Knight Tank PvP nerfs listed on PTS patch notes are causing me to hover over the unsubscribe button. My main is a Jedi Knight Tank, I am not switching and redoing the months of grinding for WH, Campaign/Black Hole gear, just not even remotely worth it. My main is less playable then my vanguard and shadow alts, if it gets any worse, then thats it for me.
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TKMaster
06.09.2012 , 07:22 AM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
That had to be before cross server LFG was added. Or possible it was when they first came out with the tool. There were some cases of players getting bugged then. I did have that happen on occasion. What you had to do was drop the que and reque. But that is not the case now.
Nope, shortly after Wath, when i 1st started, that was me sitting in queue waiting for BC heroics.

Point is x-server or not, when the majority of players have left the lower FP's behind and are doing the new ones, it wont matter much.
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