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Parstas's Avatar

06.09.2012 , 12:52 AM | #81
I wanna discuss few thing about the LFG Tool.

First things are the Operations. Denova is a really hard Oparation that needs really good gear to go thru this. So why we dont have a Gear Scanner to que for Denova. I heard already few thing ppl go in there with orange lev 45 gear that impossible to do that OP with lev 45 Gear.

The second thing after every random FP u come out on the fleet or Ilum. Normally on a low lev Charackter u are on a Planet to Play the story and u que at the same time for a random FP. but after the FP u are on the fleet again so u have to take all the way back to the planet to continue the quest. so my question is if there is a way to go back to ur old possision before the FP.

thats my biggest concurns right now for the LFG Tool

thanks for ur attention!
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Zilkin's Avatar

06.09.2012 , 02:15 AM | #82
Not x-server=close to useless even on the few server with people still playing.

foxylove's Avatar

06.09.2012 , 04:11 AM | #83
I was queued in the LFG for about 4 hours today and was unable to queue.

We tried to queue even with one tank, one healer, and two dps butt the queue would not pop.

One time it popped for Eternity Vault but it timed out. Also we were only able to get it to queue for anything after we deselected the operations choice.

However, despite deselecting the operations when the queue popped it asked to teleport us to Eternity vault, but it in fact transported us to the Lost Island.

Safing's Avatar

06.09.2012 , 04:12 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthSpooky View Post
THIS. And an example of why: I want a gear drop from Colicoid. It's incredibly hard to find a group for Colicoid on my server.
And you think a group of people who are at-level for Colicoid Games would welcome you ruining their experience by pulling them through?

Level restrictions are IMHO fine as they are.

Quote: Originally Posted by DarthSpooky View Post
Also thinks my 33/8/0 jugg in tank gear can fill a DPS role. I have no comment on this.
I have to agree with this one.
A rule of rhumb solution would be to e.g. allow one to only queue a role if he has at least half his skill points-7 in his role tree(s) (so e.g. overall 41 points, at least (41-7)/2=17 in healing).
Still allows for a wide variety of hybrid skilling (and does not restrict queuing for hammer station at all, where a DPS skilled healer IMHO can still work) but does prevent people to completely misqueue.

spectreclees's Avatar

06.09.2012 , 04:25 AM | #85
Queues are way too long even on a populated PTS server. Cross Server, please.

Safing's Avatar

06.09.2012 , 04:36 AM | #86
Concerning gear-checks (sorry for second post in a row but I think this deserves an own one):

"Gear checks" should be a purely community enforced thing, i.e. not at all instutionalized in a tool for group forming.

Different communities might have different agreements on what constitutes well enough geared. There might be servers with lots of competive people wanting strict checks (bordering on unfulfillable without having been in the instance) to servers filled with people who fled from other MMOs when gear checks became prevalent (and thus take anyone with them as long as they are able to follow group leader advice). Thus gear checks can never be done by a tool to everyone's desires.

How then?
There are sufficient social measures to ensure people are geared approprieately to the consensus of the server community (or even a subgroup of it) but they don't work on the test server (due to lack of established community and lack of long term repercussions). Vote-kick (if implemented) is one, putting undergeared people into /ignore (and have the group finder observe the /ignore list is another).
Both rely on the learning ability of people (which obviously should be told why those measures happen to them) and the general undesirableness of being kicked (after having waited for some time) or being unabled to join groups due to being ignored by too many people. The /ignore thing would work especially well as it would allow to respect different people's ideas on what is appropriate gear by keeping 'under-geared' people away from the "appropriate gear necessary" crowd but not from the "anything goes" one.

linbel's Avatar

06.09.2012 , 05:51 AM | #87
Okay I rolled a toon on PTS to see how the LFG finder worked.

I was lucky in that it popped twice for BT for me in a short space of time.

Downside was the first time I wanted to stay on fleet lost the roll and end up on Kass, second time I wanted to be on Kass and lost the roll and ended up on fleet.

It would be good to be able to choose where I want to be.

I then tried for the planet queue, and it popped twice, but the range was from 10 to 17 and that is a problem.

I would say as others have that the planet side lfg finder needs work. I would suggest that it be only for heroics and world bosses.

Maybe you need a third queue which is for people who would like some help on a class quest.

omikrem's Avatar

06.09.2012 , 06:16 AM | #88
Choosing ops (with and without FPs) and queueing as healer (L50 operative) just closes the window for me, I do not get put in the queue.

jarjarloves's Avatar

06.09.2012 , 06:33 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by spectreclees View Post
Queues are way too long even on a populated PTS server. Cross Server, please.
cross server isn't going to make the queues shorter if you still don't have enough tanks and healers. Why can't people understand this?

Lacedemon's Avatar

06.09.2012 , 06:46 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by jarjarloves View Post
cross server isn't going to make the queues shorter if you still don't have enough tanks and healers. Why can't people understand this?
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