True Test of PvP Skill

I have a 48 ops and I love the character. In pvp, concealment operatives are strictly worse than assassins on every map but voidstar. Force speed gives a much better skill set on Alderaan and whatever the new maps name is. On huttball Overload/Force Pull >>>>>>>>> anything a concealment operative can do.

The problem is similar when comparing Operatives to the range dps classes. While Operatives have comparable and possibly better single target dps, by the time you stealth up and hidden strike the ranged dps has helped much more. And forget about it if the dps turn on the operative in melee range, cause that ain't gonna be a long fight.

Just my noob opinion.

All the top Operative PvPers play the class incredibly well. They also know that if you gave them a tank/sin or marauder they could play hell of a lot better, the class does feel very constricting and you will dsicover this.

When discussing class balance you cannot simply say "I play this class well therefore it is fine", you have to take a metric across the entire class population. I have no evidence to back it up, but I would argue the reason Operatives have been nerfed is becaus the people who have high level operatives are those who have stuck by their class and are exceptionally good at PvP.

My op's fine. If you really want to test your self play an arsenal merc lol

My name is UGLYMRJ... I have a level 50 marauder and I support this message.

Seriously... tear it up dude! Would love to see vids of you tearing up (competent) marauders and putting up some good DPS. I've seen Ops do it... I've seen every class do it which is why I support this even more. No, the game isn't perfectly balanced... but name me an MMO that was balanced within 6 months of release and I'll pay your next 2 months sub.

If more people put up the good fight like this maybe we could see more constructive threads and less kleenex threads.

Well good luck, you will need it
I was very determined to show that conc ops or scraps scoundrels are still viable.
But what I have come to realise is that: It doesn't matter if you kite a mara, roll in to cover (to not let him charge) sabotage charge, snipe w/e, stun pew pew in melee, root get out again, cover, heal. It doesn't matter how much you play your scoundrel/operative on higher levels than intended, maras, pts and assassins (with equal gear) will roflstomp you.
Your squishieness and lack of sustained damage and nerfs to the burst is gonna be your downfall.

"But hey I got to 50% in one stun from a operative its unfair!!" And then what happens? You panic and yield? No fight the operative, he needs to recoup some energy to not get to below the badzone on the regeneration bar, he can't do anything at this stage and you will 99 out of 100 times turn the fight pretty easy (assuming you got all your abilities binded to keys, which should be obvious but I have seen far more examples of this than I first realised.)

^ And this is only in 1v1 situations, which thankfully players constantly remind people of all the time but fail to realise that this is a 8v8 game, talk about double standards.
In a group scenario though things gets even worse. The pvp warzones are not designed for a stealth class, with the small areas and lots of aoe and bad design of the "in combat-mechanic" makes going in to stealth a real pain in the *** unless you recently respawned. Lucky you tanksins who dont rely on stealth as much, be thankful of that

Take any other class and do this heroic "I can kill it with any class" project, not the operative dps. I have played it since release and after reading the patch notes im done officially, im gonna throw a dice to select my new class.

Trust me, you will get dissappointed, unless you wanna farm fresh dinged players then: happy hunting

There's, like, no point to having macros in this game other than benefiting disabled/bad players.

Pyrotech Merc (Energy Rebounder + some points in healing) can be pretty useful.

As for Concealment Operatives, they're great for assisting other DPS. Stunlock kills ftw

i use a 5 button mouse and a standard keyboard and i own most.... naga might help a little bit with reaction time.. but i dont have any problem at all with my setup.. you just have to use your setup with the greatest efficiency

I agree. . .but if they're gonna allow it with hardware keyboards/mouse :/ it does sound unfair

Good on ya mate. Would roll with you, but I've already been down that road with a Scrapper and I just rolled an IA for Sniper. My Scrapper is pretty good at wrecking faces and stunlocking peeps so I don't consider it a gimped class by any stretch. Not sure if he's ever made anyone unsub though.

Which server are you planning to roll on and what is the name of your toon? I may change my mind if I get really bored.


I'm sure the QQers will continue to find excuses for being bad in perpetuity. It will never end. If it's not the class they are playing against, it's the hardware they don't have, it's the consumables they don't use, it's the gear they won't grind, it's their bad fps, it's their ISP, blah, blah. Baddies and excuses go hand in hand like Lindsey Lohan and train wreck.