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True Test of PvP Skill

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True Test of PvP Skill

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dazednconfuzed
06.08.2012 , 02:41 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by williambr View Post
NO MACRO'S. Ever.
They already have macros. You just need a really expensive mouse/keyboard to use them.

Perhaps another way to even the playing field would be to have a small application that detected your mouse/keyboard hardhare, and if it a Naga, or one of the other silly ones, then the game slows your character down to about 75% speed. That might work

As far as player skill goes, there is no skill involved in pressing a button on your mouse and activating several abilities at once. It's PLAYER vs player, not MACRO vs player.
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Cempa
06.08.2012 , 02:54 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Tenbrion View Post
I am getting bored with all the QQ, nerf whining and general negativity of the vocal minority in PvP. I am rolling a brand new Concealment Operative, will not go heals, and will show that any class, played in competent hands, can be a force to be reckoned with. This is not ego, not epeen, and not even a class that plays to my strengths, but I sincerely wish PvPers would focus on skill and leave the rest to the Devs.

Bioware was quoted as saying teams of Operatives stunnlocking players would be the fall of the game. I say let's prove them right.

If you are in, sign below, and let's keep this post going to track our progress and results.

Any top level current 50 PvP Concealment Operatives, feel free to post and help grow your community!
Concealment is a very powerful PvP being the best single target burst in the game out of stealth with great control and good utility.

The majority of players I see use over load shot as a filler so they feel the class is weak because they have not figured out how to manage the resource.

Played in a team setting -which is SWTOR PvP- it is a fantastic build offensively and defensively as they see stealth early.

The number of times me a Sorcerer and my friend a concealment Operative were able to take turrets from 2's 3's and 4's I stopped counting. We alternate our CC's and burn down target so quickly!

If BW ever wakes up they will figure out this game would make some of the best arena match-ups in MMO's today!
“When I left you, I was but the learner, now I am the master.”

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Dmasterr
06.08.2012 , 02:55 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Cempa View Post
Concealment is a very powerful PvP being the best single target burst in the game out of stealth with great control and good utility.
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

You sir lost all PvP forum privileges.

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Ebon-Sith
06.08.2012 , 03:17 AM | #24
If you're just concerned about basic macros
you can pick up a steelseries shift keyboard
for like $30 when newegg has them on sale.
It'll do basic macros. eBay often has the steelseries
Merc keyboard cheap too. It's nicer as the
Macro buttons are on the left.

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dazednconfuzed
06.08.2012 , 03:59 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Ebon-Sith View Post
If you're just concerned about basic macros
you can pick up a steelseries shift keyboard
for like $30 when newegg has them on sale.
It'll do basic macros. eBay often has the steelseries
Merc keyboard cheap too. It's nicer as the
Macro buttons are on the left.
So, this is basically saying if you want to stand a chance against people who use macros, use macros yourself?

Sorry, but in a game that supposedly doesn't support macros, being expected to buy the game, pay a monthly fee, and then be expected to fork out for macro-enabled hardware, just to keep an even playing field in pvp is a little excessive, don't you think?

Not that I care, really. I do alright in pvp as it is, without having to bend the game's rules for macros.
Jedi Master Kai'sinn. Not only evil hides in the shadows.
Jedi Master Tzathali. Korriban/Tython Exchange Program.
Major Dulne. Nothing will stop Havoc Squad, Sir.

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Dmasterr
06.08.2012 , 04:07 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by dazednconfuzed View Post
So, this is basically saying if you want to stand a chance against people who use macros, use macros yourself?

Sorry, but in a game that supposedly doesn't support macros, being expected to buy the game, pay a monthly fee, and then be expected to fork out for macro-enabled hardware, just to keep an even playing field in pvp is a little excessive, don't you think?

Not that I care, really. I do alright in pvp as it is, without having to bend the game's rules for macros.
The fault belongs to all the players who whined and moaned for SWTOR to not support macros.

Its not like they removed them from existence, they just made a big gap between players with macro-supported hardware and ppl without.

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BraaxusKun
06.08.2012 , 04:08 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Dmasterr View Post
The fault belongs to all the players who whined and moaned for SWTOR to not support macros.

Its not like they removed them from existence, they just made a big gap between players with macro-supported hardware and ppl without.
Only bads use macros in pvp

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dazednconfuzed
06.08.2012 , 04:49 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Dmasterr View Post
Whats the point of spamming your crap video of an average player beating a terrible one?

Considering every time you did got deleted by GM for breaking the forum rules.
Go on, report him! Start the forum PvP!!! Lol

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL /ubad I don't use them in swtor because the game is piss easy as it is. But did use them in wow.
So, you are successful at pvp without them, right? Yeah, me too. Well, kind of, but I'm still new to pvp, so I have an excuse for being crap. All these people who program their mouse buttons to do attacks for them... What's their excuse?
Jedi Master Kai'sinn. Not only evil hides in the shadows.
Jedi Master Tzathali. Korriban/Tython Exchange Program.
Major Dulne. Nothing will stop Havoc Squad, Sir.

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Hawk-Firestorm
06.08.2012 , 04:55 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Dmasterr View Post
The fault belongs to all the players who whined and moaned for SWTOR to not support macros.

Its not like they removed them from existence, they just made a big gap between players with macro-supported hardware and ppl without.
Indeed the actual need for macro's because of there being so many abilities etc and the pace of combat I look at as a failure of design.

As a Disabled player, and there's many more of us out there alot more than you may think, I use a Rat 7 MMO mouse, its pretty much a must for me.

It's always best to put ingame mechanics in place that can be constrained but offer the required functionility to the user over out of game stuff you have no control over.

There's been plenty of good games out there that support ingame macro systems that aid the player, make combat fluid and visually appealing, its not all bad.

And for those with disability's its a big boon.

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Phlem
06.08.2012 , 05:08 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Tenbrion View Post
I am getting bored with all the QQ, nerf whining and general negativity of the vocal minority in PvP. I am rolling a brand new Concealment Operative, will not go heals, and will show that any class, played in competent hands, can be a force to be reckoned with. This is not ego, not epeen, and not even a class that plays to my strengths, but I sincerely wish PvPers would focus on skill and leave the rest to the Devs.

Bioware was quoted as saying teams of Operatives stunnlocking players would be the fall of the game. I say let's prove them right.

If you are in, sign below, and let's keep this post going to track our progress and results.

Any top level current 50 PvP Concealment Operatives, feel free to post and help grow your community!
Once adrenals are gone from WZ's you lose a big chunk of your burst DPS. For now yes they are pretty good if played by people who know the mechanics. When 1.3 goes live we will not have the sustained dps to compete, and we lack the survivability to even produce decent sustained dps.

I applaud you for doing this, hopefully after 1.3 you still feel the same way. Please feel free to rub it in my face if that's the case.
Originally Posted by GoergZoeller
"If we leave the Operative the ability to stun lock and kill people — yes, there aren’t many Operatives — but over the long term, that means people will quit the game cause it’s not fun."