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Character Transfer: No priority to sub accounts over unsubbed accounts for names?

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Character Transfer: No priority to sub accounts over unsubbed accounts for names?

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clearsighted
06.07.2012 , 03:28 PM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by Silencer_seb View Post
The differece is that what you are saying is rich people = privilige. If you can afford to pay every month you should get what you what. While people who cant pay every month should risk losing their rights.
Why are you turning this into a class war? That is so ridiculous.

If ANYONE is playing SWTOR, they have enough leisure time to justify that they are all doing at least okay by standards of Western Civilization.

The only 'privilege' I'm seeing here, are those who think that they should retain preferential treatment, despite having long since left the game in the dust. On the off chance they might return in six months.

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dipstik
06.07.2012 , 03:28 PM | #142
just because soemthing is status-quo does not make it fair.

if somsone was in a coma for 3 monthes in diablo 2, they lost their character... was that fair?

like i said before... if u are unable to pay to maintain your name, then you obviously have bigger problems than losing your name. thats not to say that the rich are privledged, but they do have more of a right to their property (name, house, car) than somsoen who lapses in payment for whatever reason.

you think land lords give people in comas for a year free rent?

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AceMcVeer
06.07.2012 , 03:30 PM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by Silencer_seb View Post
The differece is that what you are saying is rich people = privilige. If you can afford to pay every month you should get what you what. While people who cant pay every month should risk losing their rights.

So, basicly what you and many others mean is that people who cant or wont pay every month should be punished for it by risking to lose their character identity because some people who can, happened to pick a server that ended up dead, and forced them to move.

So lets say it is like that. You are on a dead server, move to some other server and you get the name you want because the other guys account was unsubbed. Then you are in an accident that puts you in the hospital for 3 months and while there your account is unsubbed. When you return you see someone else took your name.

Now, will you be angry about it and think you should have your name because you have been a subscriber since the start, or do you think its ok and get a new name?

See, the moral is.
If you think its unfair to you. Then you should see its just as unfair to the guy/girl you took the name from.
If you think its ok, then why did you have to get the name from the other guy/girl in the first place?

What i wrote is my opinion, Its not writen in law, its not writen in stone but its still a fact, there is no reason good enough why someone should take a nother players identity.
Not once did I say a subbed character gets preference over an unsubbed character. If I'm level 50 and someone has my name that is level 20, but unsubbed for a few months, that's fine by me, they can take my name in that instance.

I am not saying that rich people get preference over people who haven't paid at all. I am saying that someone who has paid SOMETHING and has actually bought the game gets preference over somebody who did early access and cancelled or did the trial and never bought the game and has not paid one cent. That I am absolutely not okay with.

Going a little further which would be nice would be where an actual gets preference over a character that is only level 1 and has never been played.

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Muskaan
06.07.2012 , 03:33 PM | #144
Quote: Originally Posted by AceMcVeer View Post
Not once did I say a subbed character gets preference over an unsubbed character. If I'm level 50 and someone has my name that is level 20, but unsubbed for a few months, that's fine by me, they can take my name in that instance.

I am not saying that rich people get preference over people who haven't paid at all. I am saying that someone who has paid SOMETHING and has actually bought the game gets preference over somebody who did early access and cancelled or did the trial and never bought the game and has not paid one cent. That I am absolutely not okay with.

Going a little further which would be nice would be where an actual gets preference over a character that is only level 1 and has never been played.
World of warcraft server transfer /name change has a feature where you can request ownership for a name on a server if the account with the same name on that server has been inactive for more than 6 months.
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Vicrodhe
06.07.2012 , 03:36 PM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by Muskaan View Post
World of warcraft server transfer /name change has a feature where you can request ownership for a name on a server if the account with the same name on that server has been inactive for more than 6 months.
Really.?

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Gwena
06.07.2012 , 03:40 PM | #146
I will probably lose at least one of my names if my server is an "origin" server, which saddens me. I think I will just have to annoy the heck out of my guild mates and add some funny characters to said names.

But I really do understand it would be complicated to come up with a priority system. Though equally improbable, I kinda wish they would let people on destination servers choose to "flag" certain characters for voluntary name changes if someone transfers over a character with the same name (that has passed a certain point, say, completed Act I). I have a couple of low-level alts I never played much that I would happily rename if someone else with more time invested in their character wanted the name on my server. I mean, I like their names a lot, but I am not attached to the characters and could easily find another name I liked.
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Silencer_seb
06.07.2012 , 03:44 PM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by clearsighted View Post
Why are you turning this into a class war? That is so ridiculous.

If ANYONE is playing SWTOR, they have enough leisure time to justify that they are all doing at least okay by standards of Western Civilization.

The only 'privilege' I'm seeing here, are those who think that they should retain preferential treatment, despite having long since left the game in the dust. On the off chance they might return in six months.
The discussion is about sub accounts VS unsubbed accounts. And while its not about money for everyone who leave or take a break, it is about money for some. I never said people dont have enough time. People who play do so because they can pay for atleast that month. But aparently because I cant pay for every month becasue I have other things to do with my money then pay for a month I know I cant play. I should lose all my rights as well.

Why shouldnt unsubbed accounts retain preferential treatment? Because they didnt pay? And you still think its not about money??

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Silencer_seb
06.07.2012 , 04:04 PM | #148
There is a really simple solution to this problem. BW adds a timer to all accounts that are unsubbed. After 5 months unsubbed, the account holder gets an email saying that the account holder has a 1 mont to resub. If its still unsubbed after 6 months. The account is classed as dead and the character names becomes available. They can add this to their policy and inform all account holders by email. This way everyone has same rights subbed or unsubbed.

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Boppl
06.07.2012 , 04:10 PM | #149
Why shouldn't I feel attached to my characters?

I have played my main since 1st day early access, and have subbed continuously. I have about 30 days total playtime on him (type /played in game to see how many hours you have logged), and my other 2 level 50's have a fair chunk of playtime (columi/rakata geared) Considering i have spent so much time playing these characters, i think it is natural to feel a bond towards them, even if they are just a bunch of pixels.

I will be upset ESPECIALLY if the names were taken by someone that has unsubbed and never intends to play again.

People on forums are saying those others that have unsubbed somehow DESERVE to keep their names? Why?? They obviously arn't interested in the game enough to keep their sub going. I have taken two holidays since game was released, but i still kept my sub going. I had periods in my life where i coudnt log in, but i still kept my sub going.

As the one that has continuously kept my sub going, you would think Bioware would want to make me happy, and as i have shown them loyalty in continuing to play, you would think they would create a system to allow me to keep my name?

People also argue that its your CHOICE to move to new server, but honestly, if your server has been selected as an origin server, you are insane to stay, because it IS going to become a ghost-town, so essentially you have no choice except to up and move and loose your identity.

(i am currently on one of three RP servers in EU, all of which are very close in terms of population number - checked torstatus.net) So essentially it will be luck of the draw whether bioware pick my server as an origin or destination server, and luck of the draw whether i will keep my names or not.

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Bloodstealer
06.07.2012 , 07:03 PM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by clearsighted View Post
Why the misleading, and honestly, demeaning suggestion that anyone who would like to keep the same identity over the last six months of playtime, is assumed to be the one who is too attached? It could just as easily be said for the number of posters in this thread, who apparently have let their sub lapse at some point or another, because wookies weren't playable species yet, and are vehemently against active accounts receiving priority.

It is also highly facetious to suggest that someone should stay on their older server. We all know that the current level of servers are unsustainable, and that Bioware will essentially be separating the 'living' from the 'dead' servers.

Everyone, whether they won the server lottery or not, should be treated equally. If people weren't equally attached to their names, we wouldn't be having this debate, either for or against it. All I want is to devise a system more nuanced than who was lucky enough to choose the server on opening day that Bioware was going to eventually spare.
And here you go again... "I want, I want, me, me, me - how many times do you need to have it posted back to you - You have zero way of knowing what accounts are active or inactive therefore your "I want is MOOT!.
The sooner you come to terms with that very clear fact, the sooner you might start to enjoy playing the game with your new toon name(s). So why even bother keep trying to play the martyr here... . bottom line is you have no right of ownership to the other persons toon names and you can either stay put on the server your toons are based or run the gauntlet like anyone else... no one is forcing you to do anything you dont want to.

IMO You have already proven yourself be the most obnoxious posters on here since the forums launched.. clearly illustrated by the amount of moderation that had to be placed into this thread based around childish and totally out of order remarks and statements, not to mention your pie in the sky statistics which lack any kind of credibility...
so face facts - what you want isn't what it is so get over it and move on.
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