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DarkDruidSS
06.07.2012 , 01:44 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Dmasterr View Post
By the time the game engine would support something like winters grasp, 99.9% of current players would have moved on from Swtor.

Even wow, has difficulties with uber game engine built for it. Not to mention isnt that what you whine against? instanced pvp ? lol

On the other hand Arena 3v3 fights could happen "now" , when x-server gets here.
You're right I am against instanced...which is why it is sad that it will probably have to be that way. This game is way too instanced as it is and adding more of that... not sure my brain can handle all the loading screens in the future.

I don't agree that this game will die. Not like all the pessimistic posters hope it will. The worst case scenario is it will settle in the 200-300k sub range that EQ, DAoC, EQ2, Vanguard and pretty much every othere MMO falls in. There is so much good in SWTOR that it will never die... that and it is a Star Wars IP so you will have the loyal fans that stick around regardless. I mean there were people playing SWG after the NGE for a long time.
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Dmasterr
06.07.2012 , 01:50 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkDruidSS View Post
You're right I am against instanced...which is why it is sad that it will probably have to be that way. This game is way too instanced as it is and adding more of that... not sure my brain can handle all the loading screens in the future.

I don't agree that this game will die. Not like all the pessimistic posters hope it will. The worst case scenario is it will settle in the 200-300k sub range that EQ, DAoC, EQ2, Vanguard and pretty much every othere MMO falls in. There is so much good in SWTOR that it will never die... that and it is a Star Wars IP so you will have the loyal fans that stick around regardless. I mean there were people playing SWG after the NGE for a long time.
I never said that the game will die. I said the current players won't play it anymore, because they lost interest, and due to IRL stuff.

Another generation of players will replace us, don't worry.

Don't you want to "fight" for something that you can enjoy in the foreseeable future, rather something players from the next generation will?

They are both bound to happen, eventually (arena and wpvp), its just that arena is something that we could enjoy now, not in 3 years.

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DarkDruidSS
06.07.2012 , 01:55 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Dmasterr View Post
I never said that the game will die. I said the current players won't play it anymore, because they lost interest, and due to IRL stuff.

Another generation of players will replace us, don't worry.

Don't you want to "fight" for something that you can enjoy in the foreseeable future, rather something players from the next generation will?

They are both bound to happen, eventually (arena and wpvp), its just that arena is something that we could enjoy now, not in 3 years.
We are getting ranked now. So I would personally like WPvP before Arena, but then you already know that seeing as how I am against instances. I am a large scale PvP fan and Ilum was one of the key contributors for why I decided to get the game to begin with.
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Izola
06.07.2012 , 01:57 PM | #54
I love how you can always tell the bads that dont want other people to know exactly how bad they really are.

Going against the idea of arena just shows me your a few cards short of a full deck, tip your hand more!!

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YanksfanJP
06.07.2012 , 01:58 PM | #55
No arena please. If you think these forums are a cesspool now, wait until the e-sport obsessed egomaniacs get a piece.
I'm not arrogant. I'm just aware of my greatness.

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Dmasterr
06.07.2012 , 02:03 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by YanksfanJP View Post
No arena please. If you think these forums are a cesspool now, wait until the e-sport obsessed egomaniacs get a piece.
Balance the classes around PvP and it wont be an issue.

And then balance the PvE content around the existing classes. You will not upset the NPC's if u nerf them.


That is WoW's mistake. They balance the classes around PvE, then PvP is imbalanced ! Instead of balancing around PvP, and adjusting pve content accordingly .

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Izola
06.07.2012 , 02:04 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by YanksfanJP View Post
No arena please. If you think these forums are a cesspool now, wait until the e-sport obsessed egomaniacs get a piece.
Of all the lame excuses we hear for not implementing arenas this one takes the cake. Your saying NO ARENAS CUZ IT WILL RUIN THE FORUMS....BWAHAHAHAHHAAH!!!

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DarkDruidSS
06.07.2012 , 02:13 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Dmasterr View Post
Balance the classes around PvP and it wont be an issue.

And then balance the PvE content around the existing classes. You will not upset the NPC's if u nerf them.


That is WoW's mistake. They balance the classes around PvE, then PvP is imbalanced ! Instead of balancing around PvP, and adjusting pve content accordingly .
That's easier said than done. Rebalancing all of the PvE content so that it's balanced around PvP. This is exactly whyI said it wouldn't be done anytime soon. They have 2 options if they want to realistically balance around arenas. One you hit on and the other is separating abilities to operate differently in PvP than PvE. Both are a huge project and unless they already started on it then it wouldn't be anytime soon.

Otherwise anything you fix in PvP will break PvE and vice versa. Swtor wasn't built around PvP, but it was built around PvE.

Large scale PvP doesn't require the same kind of tuning that arena does, because the nature of the beast. You will have classes that fill roles... like a raid group. Which is why they can implement Team ranked PvP now. The game is already fairly balanced around group PvP. Small group PvP is a completely different beast altogether.

That's why I enjoy large scale so much because it's like raid v raid combat and the best strategist can win against a much larger number opponent.
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Paulman
06.07.2012 , 02:20 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkDruidSS View Post
We are getting ranked now. So I would personally like WPvP before Arena, but then you already know that seeing as how I am against instances. I am a large scale PvP fan and Ilum was one of the key contributors for why I decided to get the game to begin with.
I agree open pvp is much more fun. If people want arenas they can just play wow. They should focus on making the product their own instead of being a poor copy of wow. Honestly a few simple things could have fixed ilum, which even despite how poorly implemened, was actually pretty fun on occasion. They should turn a big city planet like corellia into a pvp zone. Warhammer players that played in praag, know what in talking about.

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Dmasterr
06.07.2012 , 02:24 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Paulman View Post
I agree open pvp is much more fun..
Fun is subjective and unless you are the only player in Swtor, it is an invalid argument.