1.3 Class Nerfs/Buffs

Hopefully nerf to guardian/juggernaut
hopefully nerf to sent/mara
hopefully nerf to assassin
hopefully slight buff to two of the sorc/sage trees

Merc is actually fine. As of now it has a fairly high skill cap, but those players who can play it effectively can pull of extremely good numbers and a decent counter to the melee classes.

And how much flat damage mitigation is tanking stance providing? 5-7%? WOW THAT HUGE. And what are that "too many attacks" that bypass armor completely?

You bro just do not have a single clue about game mechanics.

Nerf QQ Piou Piou Whinners !

Proper class balancing after watching what happened in 1.2... yeah

OP classes keeps only the untalented here, watching the best pvp guilds diminish in number only proves that.

Oh well. *sigh*

Again, those changes (buffs) were primarily to Rage and Carnage. Annihilation actually lost some of it's abilities, including a reduction in one of our signature defensive CDs (Force Camo), and that's what you mostly see in WZs these days. Had you been playing a Marauder since day one, you'd realize how misinformed this argument is given that Annihilation in particular is actually slightly less effective after 1.2 than it was before.

As for your suggestion, puting our defensive CDs on longer timers will simply make us fodder for anyone with any semblance of competence in PvP. I can only conclude that you're advocating nerfing the AC so that we're easier to kill by the lowest common denominator of skill and gear in PvP, which is great if you happen to be an AC that we're meant to counter, and even better for ACs that easily beat us now, but does little to serve actual class balance.

If you want to point the finger at an AC that simply has too much of everything, look no further than Tanksins wearing DPS gear who get the benefits of a tank tree combined with DPS gear, and who have more utility than any other AC in the game. That AC alone is unique in the distinction of having the "total package," and epitomizes your misplaced point.

Except the expertise changed skewed things heavily in favour of burst dps, so even if the tree is slightly worse, you still come out miles ahead.

Technically from a class design standpoint, you shouldn't even have stuff like force camo and undying rage. They are abilities that belong on a more lightly armoured class, whose dots ticks less hard and don't have the burst, and don't have any defensive cooldowns at all at the moment, hmm let me think if there's a class like that... oh wait there is sorc.

Force camo, don't get pulled out of it with damage, can get healed whilst stealthed (cf operative and assassin that have to actually talent that)

Undying Rage, if you get virtual immunity to damage, then likewise it should block all healing whilst in that mode too.

Seriously, sick and tired of maras trying to defend the indefensible. Their class would be fine with outright removal, if not nerfs to these abilities.

I agree tanksins are broken, but maras are too. It seems to me you want to justify one broken class by pointing fingers at another.

My advice, try playing a merc or sorc in competitive 50 pvp and come back and talk about class balance.

The so called best PvP guilds usually reroll FOTM. Ah no, thats just the guilds who think they are best

+1
entrench should only make snipers Immune to snares

no, entrench should at least make the sniper immune to roots.

Any bets on how many marauders will be frothing at the mouth threatening to ragequit after the patch notes are revealed? I'm betting quite a few.