The elephant in the room

Yes the reason why the populations are low is because they added to many servers because so many people were crying about waiting to log into a server and play.

If you want to see a game that has some seriously unhappy players go read the D3 forums.

Good for you I said they were MY reasons for leaving. I expect more from a game that claims "Star Wars: The Old Republic stands as one of the greatest and most ambitious achievements in video game history," BioWare says.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12...itious-achiev/

Almost every server had queues at launch those people did not leave because of low server pops.

It's a shame they shut down SWG... it was a much better mmo then swtor

funny too, because i barely can bring myself to play D3 for more than 30 min every other day, and blizzard sold 6.3 million copies already.

whats this say about gaming? gaming is where it has ALWAYS BEEN. with a very small minority of society, you have cool developers making cool games for gamers. and then theres people who play blizzard games...

im willing to assume that no less than 25%, if not 75% of ALL blizzard gamers only play WoW, D3 and maybe sims as well. its just like the wii.

just because theres a fad that happens to take place in a sub-culture of media doesnt automatically degrade the rest of the community of developers and games.

im really sick of everyone comparing blizzard games and numbers to everything else. its 2 totally different markets now. of the 3 people in my family that play WoW and D3, they spend 90%+ of their "gaming" time playing a blizz game and the other 10% other games.

now thats not to say, that blizzard games aren't "games" that i would want to play, i do play them. but if i was on an island and i could only pick 1 developer for the next 10 years, i would get every game out and everything made in the next 10 years, i sure as hell wouldnt pick blizz. it took them 10 years to release 2 games. WoW is good, and D3 is the most overrated stuck in the 90s game i have ever played.

lets move on from expecting 10+ million subs for swtor, and for those of us who enjoy great games, who aren't here on these forums complaining that games arent more like blizzard, get back to playing are fave games, and leave the forums to the naysayer party.

Well good on them for opening them. Now close them, how is that so difficult to understand...and what's taking so long.
Copy and paste, it should be easy.

Well, not sure what's the point of this thread ?

Yes, game isn't perfect and needs some changes but low-pop servers don't help so it's a start as it enables people that still play to find more opportunity to do content.

Of course, it's not enough.


And btw I'm getting tired of the single-thread thing. Open the taskmanager, add the threads column on the process page, right now I have 2 instances of SWTOR, one with 13 threads, the other with 25. It was said that "the simulation and rendering processes of the engine are currently run on a single-thread", but it's not all the engine or the game, only a part, and we don't know how much change BW did to the engine.

My entire guild left, not one of them left because of unemployment.

They all left because of game or game play issues (not population either).

That may be.

But that has little to do with Bioware not being prepared for what they claim "was to be expected".

If Bioware expected players to leave, as they say, then why was there no back up plan?

Server deaths are not new to MMOs.

Diablo 3 has more players than this game has, is not a MMO and does not have a subscription fee.

How is it related to SWTOR...in any way other than they are both online computer games?

World of Warcraft was very polished when it launched.. in comparison to what else was around at the time.
Love it or hate it but the dumbed down mechanics and look and feel made it very accessible by all.
SWtor is less so in comparison to what's around right now.
I dont think that's a flaw personally. The market has moved on alot in the last 5 years or so and comparisons to WoW or Galaxies etc....or hoping for the "next massive technical leap forward" were simply not going to happen.

SW has flaws, but the biggest problem of all has been the hype surrounding the "expected" sub numbers. It was unrealistic to start with in my view. It has lead to countless issues with regards to the games PR.
Its a great game with a bright future if developed correctly ongoing.....but it will occupy a niche in what is already quite a small sector of the overall gaming market to start with.
Personally I am fine with that.