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USMCjv
06.03.2012 , 01:59 AM | #11
My reasons why the game failed (in no particular order):
1. The class story lacked real choices (didn't go through all of them but the stories I did see lacked any meaningful choice)
2. Class story on republic side was boring (I wanted to play a Jedi Knight but couldn't stand the story)
3. Lack of exploration (some of the planets like Coruscant or Nar Shadaa are just hallways)
4. The planets are very static with no weather, no day/night cycles, and the mobs just stand there waiting to die
5.The music is good, for the small amount of time it plays, but on every planet I have to listen to the sound of my speeder for just about the whole time I am there.
6. OPs are easy, when you don't hit bugs, and gear from them is way too easy to get
7. I can't level alts, after leveling a character on each faction, without having to replay the same story in the same order. Yes there are class quests, but they are far and few between.
8. PVP is gear based without it you get slaughtered. Didn't mind 1-49, though it got tedious playing the same warzones again and again. It is also unbalanced, not that I expected it to be as it is a difficult thing to do.
9. World PVP happened to me exactly once while leveling.
10. cant swim all the water features are shallow
11. No x-server LFG
12. Extreme population problems and lack of action to correct it
13. The game runs terribly and graphics aren't that good
14. Combat is not very fluid and there are ability delays
15. The game copies heavily from WoW
16. No same gender romance options
17. Lack of in game combat logs
18. Lack of addons. Some people hate them but for people with disabilities it can be very beneficial and allow them a much better gameplay experience. I'm not disabled I just saw a post about this and it made me realize how it could allow much better access to the game and content for some people.
19. No alien species, I mean seriously they are all pretty much recolored humans. Would have liked to see Togruta, Cathar, or Trandoshans as playable.
20. Character customization is seriously lacking; a lot of clones.
21. No way of character customization changes after creation; ie changing hairstyles or adding scars.
22. Nothing to in end-game that is non-combat like pazaak, swoop racing, or pod racing
23. No chat bubbles
24. Can't sit in chairs
25. Space Combat is unintuitive and on rails
26.Crafting is almost useless and is going to be even worse in next patch
27. Lack of intuitive guild features
28. The amount of bugs and the time it is taking to fix them
29. Gear design was terrible (I liked the gear I got in the beginning better then tier gear)
30. Can't have my companions in my legacy tree; this is a very bad oversight.
31. Social points were a good idea but they are poorly implemented.
32. No reputation grinds; it adds to re-playability and can give cool non-combat rewards
33. Can't customize my ship
34. Too many loading screens
35.The fleet was poorly done all the vendors on the fleet should be on Dromund Kaas and Coruscant. Also the Republic fleet looks terrible.
36. The GTN
37.No non-combat macros
38. Customer service; they had closed many of my tickets without resolving them. Also the Hoth incident accusing player of being liars and fraudulent.

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Sammm
06.03.2012 , 02:09 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by USMCjv View Post
My reasons why the game failed (in no particular order):
1. The class story lacked real choices (didn't go through all of them but the stories I did see lacked any meaningful choice)
2. Class story on republic side was boring (I wanted to play a Jedi Knight but couldn't stand the story)
3. Lack of exploration (some of the planets like Coruscant or Nar Shadaa are just hallways)
4. The planets are very static with no weather, no day/night cycles, and the mobs just stand there waiting to die
5.The music is good, for the small amount of time it plays, but on every planet I have to listen to the sound of my speeder for just about the whole time I am there.
6. OPs are easy, when you don't hit bugs, and gear from them is way too easy to get
7. I can't level alts, after leveling a character on each faction, without having to replay the same story in the same order. Yes there are class quests, but they are far and few between.
8. PVP is gear based without it you get slaughtered. Didn't mind 1-49, though it got tedious playing the same warzones again and again. It is also unbalanced, not that I expected it to be as it is a difficult thing to do.
9. World PVP happened to me exactly once while leveling.
10. cant swim all the water features are shallow
11. No x-server LFG
12. Extreme population problems and lack of action to correct it
13. The game runs terribly and graphics aren't that good
14. Combat is not very fluid and there are ability delays
15. The game copies heavily from WoW
16. No same gender romance options
17. Lack of in game combat logs
18. Lack of addons. Some people hate them but for people with disabilities it can be very beneficial and allow them a much better gameplay experience. I'm not disabled I just saw a post about this and it made me realize how it could allow much better access to the game and content for some people.
19. No alien species, I mean seriously they are all pretty much recolored humans. Would have liked to see Togruta, Cathar, or Trandoshans as playable.
20. Character customization is seriously lacking; a lot of clones.
21. No way of character customization changes after creation; ie changing hairstyles or adding scars.
22. Nothing to in end-game that is non-combat like pazaak, swoop racing, or pod racing
23. No chat bubbles
24. Can't sit in chairs
25. Space Combat is unintuitive and on rails
26.Crafting is almost useless and is going to be even worse in next patch
27. Lack of intuitive guild features
28. The amount of bugs and the time it is taking to fix them
29. Gear design was terrible (I liked the gear I got in the beginning better then tier gear)
30. Can't have my companions in my legacy tree; this is a very bad oversight.
31. Social points were a good idea but they are poorly implemented.
32. No reputation grinds; it adds to re-playability and can give cool non-combat rewards
33. Can't customize my ship
34. Too many loading screens
35.The fleet was poorly done all the vendors on the fleet should be on Dromund Kaas and Coruscant. Also the Republic fleet looks terrible.
36. The GTN
37.No non-combat macros
38. Customer service; they had closed many of my tickets without resolving them. Also the Hoth incident accusing player of being liars and fraudulent.
Omg! Are you looking for the perfect mmo?! Good luck finding that.

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Rafaman
06.03.2012 , 02:20 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by USMCjv View Post
My reasons why the game failed (in no particular order):
^^^^^^^snip^^^^^^

lol! So I have to ask.... Why are you still here? All due respect to your list, it would seem that you are a glutton for punishment if indeed those are all the reasons you think the game failed.

Or do you have a list of reasons why you play this game?

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Plumz
06.03.2012 , 02:25 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by trussasp View Post
im guessing we will not be hearing any more accurate subscription numbers from now on.
Well, we are hearing about the subs number left and right and how many of them are there. Problem is when you log on any server (except those 3-4 heavy ones) you start to wonder where are those subs since 190 servers are ghosts now. I have an active subs to another game even thou I haven't logged in there in 2 months, yes I am still an activly paying sub in there. Deos that help people in that game to find groups with me not being there? lol

BW knows very well how many subs will they have in 2 months within some 5% margin of error I would think. It is a business that runs on budget allocations for various projects. They know the cash cow is going dry when 6 months subs are up becous most decided already NOT to renew it. Why do you think they use the "telemetry" method in estimating the subs number

And btw atm it is only subs number that give them any revenew. You can't count on those few hundreds of retail game boxes sold per month (or 2..)

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MbaxterBeau
06.03.2012 , 02:27 AM | #15
OP do you watch the news very often? The WHOLE world economy is in a recession. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the lost subs are from players who's unemployment ran out and can't afford to live much less play an mmo.

So many chicken little's on this forum and only one sky that's always falling.

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USMCjv
06.03.2012 , 02:28 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Rafaman View Post
^^^^^^^snip^^^^^^

lol! So I have to ask.... Why are you still here? All due respect to your list, it would seem that you are a glutton for punishment if indeed those are all the reasons you think the game failed.

Or do you have a list of reasons why you play this game?
Reasons I used to play (these are in no particular order):
1. The class story was interesting
2. Companions were interesting liked the romance but wish it were same gendered as well
3. The scenery was nice on the planets (albeit static)
4. It's Star Wars. If it wasn't for this I would have quit long before I did.
5. Cinematics were good (although sometimes they could be buggy)
6. Legacy was cool
7. Personal ship was a nice idea
8. I liked that I could use crafting mats that were in my hanger bay
9. Datacrons
10. Codex

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USMCjv
06.03.2012 , 02:29 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Sammm View Post
Omg! Are you looking for the perfect mmo?! Good luck finding that.
If they actually had some of these things in the game it would make others a lot more tolerable it is the fact that there are so many things detrimental to my gameplay that i unsubbed. There is poor population on servers for a reason.

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Plumz
06.03.2012 , 02:30 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Rafaman View Post
^^^^^^^snip^^^^^^

lol! So I have to ask.... Why are you still here? All due respect to your list, it would seem that you are a glutton for punishment if indeed those are all the reasons you think the game failed.

Or do you have a list of reasons why you play this game?
I don't think he is playing anymore, but like most of us still have an active sub till it runs out. Don't worry mate in less than 2 months you will be begging people to come back to help the company pay for stuff that you would like to have in game

You will not be irked by people complaning:P You will sigh loudly remembering the forums full of life (even if a gutter one)
I have seen that in 3 mmos already You probably haven't

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USMCjv
06.03.2012 , 02:33 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by MbaxterBeau View Post
OP do you watch the news very often? The WHOLE world economy is in a recession. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the lost subs are from players who's unemployment ran out and can't afford to live much less play an mmo.

So many chicken little's on this forum and only one sky that's always falling.
Lol, all the people that could afford $60+ for a game suddenly decided $15 a month was too much? Plenty of other subscription games didn't lose 25% of their player base. While I have no doubt there may be a few cases where this did happen I highly doubt it is the reason for the majority of the player loss.
*EDIT: I also never said it was going to fail just made valid points of where the game is lacking. Stop trying to troll anyone who isn't blindly in love with this game.

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MbaxterBeau
06.03.2012 , 02:33 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by USMCjv View Post
My reasons why the game failed (in no particular order):
1. The class story lacked real choices (didn't go through all of them but the stories I did see lacked any meaningful choice)
2. Class story on republic side was boring (I wanted to play a Jedi Knight but couldn't stand the story)
3. Lack of exploration (some of the planets like Coruscant or Nar Shadaa are just hallways)
4. The planets are very static with no weather, no day/night cycles, and the mobs just stand there waiting to die
5.The music is good, for the small amount of time it plays, but on every planet I have to listen to the sound of my speeder for just about the whole time I am there.
6. OPs are easy, when you don't hit bugs, and gear from them is way too easy to get
7. I can't level alts, after leveling a character on each faction, without having to replay the same story in the same order. Yes there are class quests, but they are far and few between.
8. PVP is gear based without it you get slaughtered. Didn't mind 1-49, though it got tedious playing the same warzones again and again. It is also unbalanced, not that I expected it to be as it is a difficult thing to do.
9. World PVP happened to me exactly once while leveling.
10. cant swim all the water features are shallow
11. No x-server LFG
12. Extreme population problems and lack of action to correct it
13. The game runs terribly and graphics aren't that good
14. Combat is not very fluid and there are ability delays
15. The game copies heavily from WoW
16. No same gender romance options
17. Lack of in game combat logs
18. Lack of addons. Some people hate them but for people with disabilities it can be very beneficial and allow them a much better gameplay experience. I'm not disabled I just saw a post about this and it made me realize how it could allow much better access to the game and content for some people.
19. No alien species, I mean seriously they are all pretty much recolored humans. Would have liked to see Togruta, Cathar, or Trandoshans as playable.
20. Character customization is seriously lacking; a lot of clones.
21. No way of character customization changes after creation; ie changing hairstyles or adding scars.
22. Nothing to in end-game that is non-combat like pazaak, swoop racing, or pod racing
23. No chat bubbles
24. Can't sit in chairs
25. Space Combat is unintuitive and on rails
26.Crafting is almost useless and is going to be even worse in next patch
27. Lack of intuitive guild features
28. The amount of bugs and the time it is taking to fix them
29. Gear design was terrible (I liked the gear I got in the beginning better then tier gear)
30. Can't have my companions in my legacy tree; this is a very bad oversight.
31. Social points were a good idea but they are poorly implemented.
32. No reputation grinds; it adds to re-playability and can give cool non-combat rewards
33. Can't customize my ship
34. Too many loading screens
35.The fleet was poorly done all the vendors on the fleet should be on Dromund Kaas and Coruscant. Also the Republic fleet looks terrible.
36. The GTN
37.No non-combat macros
38. Customer service; they had closed many of my tickets without resolving them. Also the Hoth incident accusing player of being liars and fraudulent.
Does this list make anyone else want to line all the soup can labels in their kitchen cabinet up? I mean for the love of god this game is like 6 months old.

The loading screens and orbital bases are annoying but that's about it as far as I'm concerned.