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Queueing as a level 10

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Queueing as a level 10

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looneybinjim
06.03.2012 , 12:28 AM | #31
as long as level 10s can queue up for both sides there is no problem. soemtimes you may have the low levels on your team, others they will be on the other team, its swings and roundabouts, and as long as it stays like that its fine. just face the fact: you cant win every game.

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skotish
06.03.2012 , 12:32 AM | #32
I am going against the grain here and agree with you but will say there
Is more of a problem with level 49 players that will not make the step up
To the big league bc they will lose their leet status
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Sabredance
06.03.2012 , 12:49 AM | #33
I start at 10 and usually top the charts from there on and help winning matches.
Go figure.

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criminalheretic
06.03.2012 , 12:58 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by skotish View Post
I am going against the grain here and agree with you but will say there
Is more of a problem with level 49 players that will not make the step up
To the big league bc they will lose their leet status
Ok at the risk of sounding like a moron...

How do people do that? I mean you play the match, you get experience, eventually you're gonna hit 50. Are you accusing them of quitting the match at the very end? Cause that I have not seen, and it would be ridiculous.
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Luciferhawke
06.03.2012 , 12:59 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by criminalheretic View Post
Ok at the risk of sounding like a moron...

How do people do that? I mean you play the match, you get experience, eventually you're gonna hit 50. Are you accusing them of quitting the match at the very end? Cause that I have not seen, and it would be ridiculous.
it's done. i've done it too. Only have 2 weeks left of play time so no reason for me to make the jump on my sage

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hollowztips
06.03.2012 , 01:00 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthNuke View Post
Great, those of us with 50s on dead servers and have been forced to reroll are being told by noobs how to pvp.

/force choke self
lol at this point i assume all players 10-30 are mainly rerolls

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TitusVorenus
06.03.2012 , 01:07 AM | #37
I consistently have done very well with my tank-spec Powertech, starting at level 10 (I'm about 22 now IIRC). In fact, I have often scored the most medals or been close, and am otherwise consistently one of the "better" (in terms of metrics) players in my matches.

Does it help that I PvP a ton on my 50 tank-spec Vanguard, and therefore I'm familiar with the gameplay mechanics of the mirror? Sure--which is exactly why I like to PvP as my BH, as opposed to my DPS Juggernaut which I simply do not enjoy PvPing with. It was a deliberate choice on my part, because I like to PvP, and I'm pretty good at what I like to do, so I felt no need to rock the boat.

(And before anyone calls me lazy... I do PvP a fair amount with my Scoundrel healer too )


My point is, the issue isn't what level anyone is--I know no one ever likes to give Bioware credit for a good idea, but their "bolster" system genuinely is one--and while gear can be an issue, I find that no matter what level a player is you'll have some fools running around in all-green gear or social gear as a tank (yes, I realize that the Trooper armor is awesome, but wearing it as a BH is just nerfing yourself) and others smart enough to equip orange/purple/blue gear--and all of that is worthless if you don't understand what your abilities are and when to use them. There really is skill involved in PvP, even if people refuse to acknowledge it.
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skotish
06.03.2012 , 01:34 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by criminalheretic View Post
Ok at the risk of sounding like a moron...

How do people do that? I mean you play the match, you get experience, eventually you're gonna hit 50. Are you accusing them of quitting the match at the very end? Cause that I have not seen, and it would be ridiculous.
Yes I am and they do leave before the end and get no xp gain
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Twin
06.03.2012 , 01:42 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by TitusVorenus View Post
I consistently have done very well with my tank-spec Powertech, starting at level 10 (I'm about 22 now IIRC). In fact, I have often scored the most medals or been close, and am otherwise consistently one of the "better" (in terms of metrics) players in my matches.

Does it help that I PvP a ton on my 50 tank-spec Vanguard, and therefore I'm familiar with the gameplay mechanics of the mirror? Sure--which is exactly why I like to PvP as my BH, as opposed to my DPS Juggernaut which I simply do not enjoy PvPing with. It was a deliberate choice on my part, because I like to PvP, and I'm pretty good at what I like to do, so I felt no need to rock the boat.

(And before anyone calls me lazy... I do PvP a fair amount with my Scoundrel healer too )

My point is, the issue isn't what level anyone is--I know no one ever likes to give Bioware credit for a good idea, but their "bolster" system genuinely is one--and while gear can be an issue, I find that no matter what level a player is you'll have some fools running around in all-green gear or social gear as a tank (yes, I realize that the Trooper armor is awesome, but wearing it as a BH is just nerfing yourself) and others smart enough to equip orange/purple/blue gear--and all of that is worthless if you don't understand what your abilities are and when to use them. There really is skill involved in PvP, even if people refuse to acknowledge it.
This^

While i agree that some lowlevel players are more or less not helping in a WZ, it's not universal. It's about experience and understanding the game mechanics.

I have 4 level 50 toons at this point and another 2 around 20-25. I started warzones on ALL of them at level 10.

You dont have to be able to 1vs1 anyone, you dont have to do massive ammounts of damage - you just need to know your limitations and adapt your role to that fact. Ofc, if there are like 5 level 10's in a team, opposing a full team of highlevels, it will be a hard fight - Unless their players are generally bad (Which isn't too rare either).

In the end, if you know your limitations, play smart accordingly and focus on objectives there is a good chance you will end up being one of the most best performing players in your team.
Because from my experience in 10-49, most players, low medium and highlevel alike - seems to think even huttball is a deathmatch where topping the DPS on scoreboard is what matters...

It's more often then not that i get at least 1-2 MVP votes from random ppl in my group - which makes me glad, since it means more ppl then just me recognise how you play objectives.

//Twin

EDIT: And ofc, if the level 10 is completly new to the game and to warzones, they wont be very helpful. We were all new and started out at some point. The sign of being a good pvper in that situation is to have patience, explain and generally make an effort to make that guy understand - so he'll get better each match.

There is also no reason why a new player would not queue up, since you get an ingame tip about it
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TheronFett
06.03.2012 , 03:12 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by xBeefy View Post
You clearly don't understand. You're missing so many key abilities and talents that level 30+ all have. This is a massive disadvantage and I call BS on you out dpsing people consistantly as a level 10.
Fail.

I've posted up top DPS and medals at level 10 many times, and have seen lots of other players do it too. The only thing lacking are new skills, as damage scales. Yes, lowbies can be gimped as far as having better abilities/talents to use, but don't fool yourself into thinking they're worthless players.

Bads are bads, regardless of gear or level. Period.