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Driveinns

06.02.2012 , 12:25 AM \| #41	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Adderdin Every time the subs grow the companies gloat about it on their forums, in the interviews. If they dont do it, that means the numbers are going down. Here is an example for Biodrones - Blizzard gloated after getting 500k subs, 1 milion subs, 1.5 milion subs, 2 milion subs and so on, Bioware isnt, because they simply cant. I feel I have to say this type of thing to at least one person who posts like this. Because you know the intricate workings of Bioware, EA and you know, for fact, how they work, what they do and how they choose to advertise, and what they choose to tell the press? You know this all for a fact? Why? Cause you have some mystical knowledge of what goes on in their boardrooms, you have an insider who tells you nothing but fact? You are there in their offices now hiding in the broom closet? I don't think you have any of that. Personally I believe people who spout off this type of stuff are pretty much making it up. You have no fact and no proof to back up these claims, so they end up just being your opinion, and you choose to be negative. Just sayin.

Driveinns

06.02.2012 , 12:26 AM \| #42	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TheOnlyKyrenS It all depends on when they did their count. Could have been a beta weekend. They also don't count accounts on their first 30 free days so they have to figure out whom they are. So no, they will not hire you. Lol and QFT.

Crash-X

06.02.2012 , 12:34 AM \| #43	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Insomnio I do not discount anything you wrote, I just do not agree with the poo out as many franchise games as possible ethic, while the quality dives. Like you mention, the "improvements" to Madden often were big let downs. I do not say Madden games have not improved over the years, PS3 compared to Sega Genesis, yeah Madden has come a long way- though incrementally at best, to me there is little change yearly to the franchise that makes it stand out from the previous year. To me rating a game like Madden, which has been out years, over a game like TOR that is supposed to be a new and exciting title as well as a monthly income- well its bothersome, it seems to indicate that the game is being religated to the far back burner on the priority list. And it just reached its 6th month anniversary, that is just not a good sign. Well it's not like they put it on the back burner. It just wasn't in their top 5. What were the games again? Madden, Fifa, Sims, Battlefield and I forget the other one. Either way those are all mega sellers so I don't see it as a insult to SWTOR more like EA has a lot of other major franchises.

Insomnio

06.02.2012 , 12:34 AM \| #44	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TheOnlyKyrenS It all depends on when they did their count. Could have been a beta weekend. They also don't count accounts on their first 30 free days so they have to figure out whom they are. So no, they will not hire you. Well, I would have to ask how do you know they do not could the first "free" 30 days? Thats an "active subscription"- you do not even get to start playing that free 30 days unless you buy a time card or give up your credit card number. I would bet you that the first 30 days "free" is counted toward "active subscriptions".

fotch_

06.02.2012 , 12:55 AM \| #45	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by MindSpore There are many variables needed to give an accurate answer, here are a few samples. 1. Are they right or left handed? 2. Are they wearing pants? 3. Do weekend pass players count? 4. Are they ping pong champions? 5. Have they ever taken a ride on a dolphin? 6. Who do they consider to be the best James Bond? 7. Can they speak latin? 8. Do they know where Carmen Sandiego is hiding? 9. Do they have a memory foam mattress? 10. Are they currently paying? This is probably the greatest post I have ever read on this forum....lmao!!!
They don't want us to talk and they could care less what we think...this is the hard reality

HexHammer

06.02.2012 , 02:15 AM \| #46	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux what if something does come out that completely blows our minds huh? That may be, but there probaly won't be sufficient subs to make the turnaround.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rJ_JLb2cHE how space combat should be!

Goretzu

06.02.2012 , 02:32 AM \| #47	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus Yeah...Blizzard counts only the subs which are active the last 30 days before they do thier quarterly sub count release. I never remember Blizz stating it was any type of complicated undertaking...:P Pretty sure they'll count all trial and free time accounts in that time too. Many also count within the last billing period AND the prior 30 days as "active" too.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too? Goretzu's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving "Entitled" approaches 1

Mannic

06.02.2012 , 03:13 AM \| #48	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux what if something does come out that completely blows our minds huh? Ahh yes... the messiah patch. You can mark any game's success or failure by the posting trend from fanboys on the official forums. We're just past the"gloating over overstated subscriber numbers" stage and have arrived at the "empty-servers while the community begs for server merges" phase. Always during this phase there's a new patch in the offing, coming "soon." For fanboys, this is known as the "messiah patch" stage.

Lurchy

06.02.2012 , 03:46 AM \| #49	Quote
I read the article and all the comments, I have cut and pasted the last comment below (sadly I think this guy is fairly representative of quite a lot of 'subscribers') :- Spoiler #25GrimRita 02/06/12, 8:25 am Theres no point debating this with PB. He is a fanboy. The facts speak for themselves � numbers have dropped like a stone because the game is simply **. Nothing to do once you hit lvl 50 � didnt they mention they have �years of endgame content� � where?! Broken PvP � hopefully they lost their jobs because they simply dont deserve to work with MMOs ever again after ******* up both WAR and now SWTOR. Sales � 2.4 million Those who played at launch � 2million �active� subs at Feb � 1.7 million = 300k �active� subs at May � 1.3 million = 400k �� Total � 700k loss of players These are EA�s figures. I saw IGNs review for Tera the other day and I cant believe the ******* cheek those losers have. EA throw huge amounts of cash at IGN to push SWTOR and they score it a 9/10 � LOL. Tera gets a 6.5 without the advertising spend. I havent played Tera but 6.5 for SWTOR sounds about right � if not a 5. Its probably one of THE worst triple A MMOs in recent times with about as much creative flair as Eastenders. When the next set of figures are released, EA will be ****** themselves because I think this will drop under 1 million. PB doesnt even look at the forums, so he doesnt see the full picture � the players are screaming for server mergers, which like most stuff in this turd is �coming soon�! Please do not read this spoiler if you are a happy player and content with SWTOR .
Originally Posted by ErisktheRed my suggestion, the empire creates the death star early and blows up Illum instead of Alderaan. Problem solved.

Adderdin

06.02.2012 , 03:53 AM \| #50	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Driveinns I feel I have to say this type of thing to at least one person who posts like this. Because you know the intricate workings of Bioware, EA and you know, for fact, how they work, what they do and how they choose to advertise, and what they choose to tell the press? You know this all for a fact? Why? Cause you have some mystical knowledge of what goes on in their boardrooms, you have an insider who tells you nothing but fact? You are there in their offices now hiding in the broom closet? I don't think you have any of that. Personally I believe people who spout off this type of stuff are pretty much making it up. You have no fact and no proof to back up these claims, so they end up just being your opinion, and you choose to be negative. Just sayin. Nope, no mistical knowledge as you put it, its not magic, its just plain old "information" from the articles, from SWTOR.com. I use the skills known as "reading comprehension", sometimes even "logical thinking". Try that.
demotivators.despair.com/customerdisservicedemotivator.jpg Quote: Originally Posted by Vordy Well great, then they dont have to fix this because you are leaving anyways....

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