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Top Ten Reasons YOU play SWTOR? Top five reasons you quit?

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Top Ten Reasons YOU play SWTOR? Top five reasons you quit?

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LordRahlik
06.01.2012 , 02:39 AM | #11
10. Great re-playability. Since the quests are not exactly the same for each class and not even exactly the same within one class depending on if you are good or evil it's the best re-playability I have ever seen. I think I can play alts in this game until I retire without problem.

09. Fantastic PvP. The PvP system in other games are often complex, huge and really promotes elitism. The focus on the PvP here is absolutely great with casual or hardcore PvP existing side by side in a splendid way.

08. Amazing balance (and not afraid to nerf). Bioware has really impressed me with their focus on getting the game where they want it. They change the healing and a lot of people complain but they stick by their decision and it was a great decision. Now it actually is a challenge to heal. Great move!

07. Amazing amount of content! No seriously. Check any MMO and compare the amount of OPS any other game has in one single expansion. Nothing comes up in SWTOR:s quality.
2 x Operations (x 3 difficulties) = 6 different operations/raids (and today it's 3 more with the new operation released). 3 flashpoints on level 50 at 2 different difficulty levels and a bunch of low level flashpoints that you can repeat on hard mode at level 50. No other game comes close.

06. It's STAR WARS !!!! I mean!!! Seriously! STAR WARS! Can anything beat that?

05. Orange gear! Upgradable gear is a great idea. I absolutely love it!

04. Space Combat. It's amazing! Best ever. I am so glad they didn't cave in and have fly-wherever-you-want space flight. I don't want a flight/space-simulator. Then I would have played another game. This is superb!

03. Companions! Best. Idea. Ever!

02. The story. Story quests are the future. Anything else just seems dead. WoW:s bad quests (or for instance the HORRIBLE no-story-at-all game Diablo 3) just cannot hold my interest. I need the story telling in a game from now on.

And the most important reason of all:
01. I have so much fun that all other games put together doesn't come up in the fun I have with this game.

SWToR is, without a doubt, the best game I have ever played.
Societies in decline tend not to innovate. I just wish we had cellphones to report quests. Guess light speed tech and cell phone tech are mutually exclusive.
I know this image is supposed to be an insult, but it's not.
Two similar games and yet SW:ToR is so much better.

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Lurchy
06.01.2012 , 02:46 AM | #12
First of all I would like to state my qualifications for why you should take my post very seriously:- I have a PC that is connected to the internet and I have too much time on my hands.

I was going to answer the OP's question but then I realised that my top 10 reasons for for why I don't play the game could quite easily be somebody elses top 10 reasons for why they do play the game. I thought about this for a bit, decided to make this post anyway and now I am gonna go and make a cup of coffee
Originally Posted by ErisktheRed
my suggestion, the empire creates the death star early and blows up Illum instead of Alderaan. Problem solved.

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wolfmith
06.01.2012 , 02:56 AM | #13
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All of these require people to participate in.
Amen brother !!
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silvershadez
06.01.2012 , 03:02 AM | #14
Reasons I played this game / I will may continue playing (once transfers roll out):

1. It's a science fiction theme and not one of these orc or elve themed MMO.

2. Great class design. Alot of those classes differ from other archetypes i got used to in other MMOs which is kind of refreshing.

3. Great balance. Never actually have seen a game this balanced right from the start and I probably will never see it again (even tho some classes still could use some rebalance).

4. PvP (atleast when there still is some PvP, which is getting more and more difficult due to low server population). I really enjoy it tho there are some point's i might want to change (resolve, amount of CC in the game).

5. Nicely designed PvE. Even tho it could be more difficult.

6. My ingame friends. Really hate to leave them behind.

7. Great storylines and even tho dialogues get old after the first time, I like them too.

8. No real alternative MMO.

9. Progress. I still have items to farm for.

10. It's Star Wars.




Top five reasons I quit:

1. Population decrease. I once switched my server from a dying one to the most populated PvP server, but now this one is about to die too.

2. Lack of action from Bioware regarding server transfers so far.

This are my main reasons, but if I was to name some more it would be:

3. Whiny community. Not all of them but the most part.

4. Resolve system and the immense amount of CC ingame.

5. GW2 is about to come.

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NinjaApacHe
06.01.2012 , 03:02 AM | #15
I'm playing it and not quitting, so here my 10 reasons:

1- I love the Old Repubblic lore (played Kotor 1 & 2 so many times I can't even recall)

2- I love the combat system

3- I like the legacy system

4- I like the stories

5- I feel part of a universe

6- I have nothing better to play

7- I have a lot of free time

8- My daughters are fantastic

9- My wife is wonderful

10- My dog is the best


From 8 to 10 I did not know what to write, ahahahah.
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Ravbek
06.01.2012 , 03:17 AM | #16
My main reason for staying is Hope. I Hope they implement all the things I want lol.

Although I do still like the game.

PvP
Datacrons
Codex
Exploring
Story

Mainly only do warzones now though as most of my guild has moved on.
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USMCjv
06.01.2012 , 03:48 AM | #17
I can give you the reason I used to play, just not 10 of them. It's interesting that you ask for 10 reason you like it but only 5 reasons you quit.
Reasons I used to play (these are in no particular order):
1. The class story was interesting
2. Companions were interesting liked the romance but wish it were same gendered as well
3. The scenery was nice on the planets (albeit static)
4. It's Star Wars. If it wasn't for this I would have quit long before I did.
5. Cinematics were good (although sometimes they could be buggy)
6. Legacy was cool
7. Personal ship was a nice idea
8. I liked that I could use crafting mats that were in my hanger bay
9. Datacrons
10. Codex

Reasons I quit (these are in no particular order):
1. The class story lacked real choices (didn't go through all of them but the stories I did see lacked any meaningful choice)
2. Class story on republic side was boring (I wanted to play a Jedi Knight but couldn't stand the story)
3. Lack of exploration (some of the planets like Coruscant or Nar Shadaa are just hallways)
4. The planets are very static with no weather, no day/night cycles, and the mobs just stand there waiting to die
5.The music is good, for the small amount of time it plays, but on every planet I have to listen to the sound of my speeder for just about the whole time I am there.
6. OPs are easy, when you don't hit bugs, and gear from them is way too easy to get
7. I can't level alts, after leveling a character on each faction, without having to replay the same story in the same order. Yes there are class quests, but they are far and few between.
8. PVP is gear based without it you get slaughtered. Didn't mind 1-49, though it got tedious playing the same warzones again and again. It is also unbalanced, not that I expected it to be as it is a difficult thing to do.
9. World PVP happened to me exactly once while leveling.
10. cant swim all the water features are shallow
11. No x-server LFG
12. Extreme population problems and lack of action to correct it
13. The game runs terribly and graphics aren't that good
14. Combat is not very fluid and there are ability delays
15. The game copies heavily from WoW
16. No same gender romance options
17. Lack of in game combat logs
18. Lack of addons. Some people hate them but for people with disabilities it can be very beneficial and allow them a much better gameplay experience. I'm not disabled I just saw a post about this and it made me realize how it could allow much better access to the game and content for some people.
19. No alien species, I mean seriously they are all pretty much recolored humans. Would have liked to see Togruta, Cathar, or Trandoshans as playable.
20. Character customization is seriously lacking; a lot of clones.
21. No way of character customization changes after creation; ie changing hairstyles or adding scars.
22. Nothing to in end-game that is non-combat like pazaak, swoop racing, or pod racing
23. No chat bubbles
24. Can't sit in chairs
25. Space Combat is unintuitive and on rails
26.Crafting is almost useless and is going to be even worse in next patch
27. Lack of intuitive guild features
28. The amount of bugs and the time it is taking to fix them
29. Gear design was terrible (I liked the gear I got in the beginning better then tier gear)
30. Can't have my companions in my legacy tree; this is a very bad oversight.
31. Social points were a good idea but they are poorly implemented.
32. No reputation grinds; it adds to re-playability and can give cool non-combat rewards
33. Can't customize my ship
34. Too many loading screens
35.The fleet was poorly done all the vendors on the fleet should be on Dromund Kaas and Coruscant. Also the Republic fleet looks terrible.
36. The GTN
37. Customer service; they had closed many of my tickets without resolving them. Also the hoth incident where they called players liars and fraudulent.

Sad part is I could probably think of more if I thought about it but I feel this is enough. I really tried to like this game but as it is I would rather wait. If they change some things for the better I will come back and play again. For now I am gonna keep my eye on GW2 and since it has no sub fee I will be able to come back and play this as well, if they make some changes.

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mattyvoodoo
06.01.2012 , 04:12 AM | #18
I play because...

1) I want to see what they do with the legacy system and family tree...
2) The music. The music is awesome in this game.
3) I love Star Wars and KOTOR.
4) No other MMO made in the image of mass effect when it comes cinematic cutscenes and dialogue.
5) Great character customer customization.
6) Great class story lines.

That's all I've got. Why I'm about to stop playing?

1) Bioware is taking it's sweet *** time dealing with server pops... time that isn't worth my 15 dollars a month.
2) Heroics and flashpoints are pretty much impossible to do, due to lack of a population.
3) PVP is impossible for the reason already stated.
4) NO POPULATION/FIX, THE GAME IS NEARLY UNPLAYABLE!

Bioware, I play with myself enough as is, FIX THE *********** POPULATION PROBLEM.
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VegaPhone
06.01.2012 , 04:13 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by USMCjv View Post
I can give you the reason I used to play, just not 10 of them. It's interesting that you ask for 10 reason you like it but only 5 reasons you quit.
Reasons I used to play (these are in no particular order):
1. The class story was interesting
2. Companions were interesting liked the romance but wish it were same gendered as well
3. The scenery was nice on the planets (albeit static)
4. It's Star Wars. If it wasn't for this I would have quit long before I did.
5. Cinematics were good (although sometimes they could be buggy)
6. Legacy was cool
7. Personal ship was a nice idea
8. I liked that I could use crafting mats that were in my hanger bay
9. Datacrons
10. Codex

Reasons I quit (these are in no particular order):
1. The class story lacked real choices (didn't go through all of them but the stories I did see lacked any meaningful choice)
2. Class story on republic side was boring (I wanted to play a Jedi Knight but couldn't stand the story)
3. Lack of exploration (some of the planets like Coruscant or Nar Shadaa are just hallways)
4. The planets are very static with no weather, no day/night cycles, and the mobs just stand there waiting to die
5.The music is good, for the small amount of time it plays, but on every planet I have to listen to the sound of my speeder for just about the whole time I am there.
6. OPs are easy, when you don't hit bugs, and gear from them is way too easy to get
7. I can't level alts, after leveling a character on each faction, without having to replay the same story in the same order. Yes there are class quests, but they are far and few between.
8. PVP is gear based without it you get slaughtered. Didn't mind 1-49, though it got tedious playing the same warzones again and again. It is also unbalanced, not that I expected it to be as it is a difficult thing to do.
9. World PVP happened to me exactly once while leveling.
10. cant swim all the water features are shallow
11. No x-server LFG
12. Extreme population problems and lack of action to correct it
13. The game runs terribly and graphics aren't that good
14. Combat is not very fluid and there are ability delays
15. The game copies heavily from WoW
16. No same gender romance options
17. Lack of in game combat logs
18. Lack of addons. Some people hate them but for people with disabilities it can be very beneficial and allow them a much better gameplay experience. I'm not disabled I just saw a post about this and it made me realize how it could allow much better access to the game and content for some people.
19. No alien species, I mean seriously they are all pretty much recolored humans. Would have liked to see Togruta, Cathar, or Trandoshans as playable.
20. Character customization is seriously lacking; a lot of clones.
21. No way of character customization changes after creation; ie changing hairstyles or adding scars.
22. Nothing to in end-game that is non-combat like pazaak, swoop racing, or pod racing
23. No chat bubbles
24. Can't sit in chairs
25. Space Combat is unintuitive and on rails
26.Crafting is almost useless and is going to be even worse in next patch
27. Lack of intuitive guild features
28. The amount of bugs and the time it is taking to fix them
29. Gear design was terrible (I liked the gear I got in the beginning better then tier gear)
30. Can't have my companions in my legacy tree; this is a very bad oversight.
31. Social points were a good idea but they are poorly implemented.
32. No reputation grinds; it adds to re-playability and can give cool non-combat rewards
33. Can't customize my ship
34. Too many loading screens
35.The fleet was poorly done all the vendors on the fleet should be on Dromund Kaas and Coruscant. Also the Republic fleet looks terrible.
36. The GTN
37. Customer service; they had closed many of my tickets without resolving them.

Sad part is I could probably think of more if I thought about it but I feel this is enough. I really tried to like this game but as it is I would rather wait. If they change some things for the better I will come back and play again. For now I am gonna keep my eye on GW2 and since it has no sub fee I will be able to come back and play this as well, if they make some changes.
I agree with a lot that you said but really I am surprised that BW did not address this from the beginning from their own developers that should have the common sense to foresee this as the feedback of their customers.

edit: I think there are too many devs in BW that are book smarts smart without any feel for what gaming communities enjoy, and also are playing it too safe by not expanding from the main development and safe WoW formula, which they should still be able to do considering the dev time and money they had.

The problem was 1. Bad organization as they mentioned themselves, and also a lack of MMO development and direction from the beginning.

Those are the two main problems. The game was made mostly as solo content that is shared online and that was the development focus. Which is unfortunate since MMOs should be more than what was swtor was released as.

Also its SW competing with other great ideas but are not SW which means, the population will shrink due to BW team being incompetent, and when the population shrinks then the development will shrink as well. However, the game will last for a long time, but it wont be able to compete with other great games with more development and better management than swtor which means for swtor players they will be investing their time in a lower quality product when it was touted as a AAA MMO and takes a monthly sub as well. That opportunity cost to the customer will be too great at one point and will affect the enjoyment of a fun game when on populated servers, but in contrast even the 'fun' factor wont justify ignoring more fun and better developed games.

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PoisonedTea
06.01.2012 , 04:38 AM | #20
Top 5 I quit hmm well a few but not cause the game is bad.

1. PvP
volistar and Huttball may be fun for some but I don't want to play them right now there is no option to but to queue for all pvp maps

2. Lack of chose
although in most of the story you can chose stuff but with companions you cant say NO you can't make your romantic option love you in a none romantic way. It a selfish one but it annoyed me greatly.

3. The Leveling community
To get group Leveling was fine at the start but later on noone would group up together
Not mention just to play with people while Leveling (Is how the game is meant to be played is so much more fun it you want to go though story's) is even harder.

4. Noone plays low level dungeons

5. Lack of Mini games
Not much else to say here they made Pazaak but they don't have Pazaak