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Lheim
05.25.2012 , 04:52 PM | #371
Yea, I'm with the people who're disagreeing with the OP.

I understand people're emotionally invested in the game.. but end all, be all, we're all paying for a service and we all get to decide if the service is CURRENTLY worth our cash. Whether it will be or not in future is a different matter, and if Bioware loses people and is unable to get them back because they released a game without even a bleeding /lfg channel.. well, nobody's fault but their own.
Endgame gear grinds are not the way.

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StaticJoe
05.25.2012 , 05:25 PM | #372
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I swear on my medical license! The real one!

--Doctor Ryamn

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daveydiablo
05.25.2012 , 05:30 PM | #373
Quote: Originally Posted by Kaptain_Kabul View Post
No!

Time is over!
Game is over!
It's game over, man. Game over.

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Helistin
05.25.2012 , 05:32 PM | #374
Quote: Originally Posted by daveydiablo View Post
It's game over, man. Game over.
Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that?

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daveydiablo
05.25.2012 , 05:34 PM | #375
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalfear View Post
I cant help wondering if when the OP tries a new restraunt and they screw up his order 5 times in a row, if he sits there saying,

"Thats ok, they are new and learning, no reason for me to expect to get what I ordered and will pay for"

Baffles me these "their new, accept the mistakes" attitude. MMORPGs been around for 21 years, there is NO REASON for most of these mistakes made.

Bugs dont bother me personally and I rarely complaint about them, I just send feedback to who ever when I find one and move on.

But the design mistakes that were more then predictable, those bother me to no end and
NO, its not ok.
NO, you dont get a free pass because its your first MMORPG (which again its really not as they had Mythic with them for the entire journey so they had kowledge from DAoC and Warhammer games to draw from.

Why is it so bad to expect top level production from a gaming company? You demand it from restraunts, you demand it from mechanics, you demand it from everyone else in your lives. But come to a game and

"ahhhh well, its ok you didnt get it right the first time, heres my money anyways, take your time, ill wait"

Yeah sorry dont buy that for a sec.
A fine arguement, but expect to be called 'entitled' at some point by a portion of your fellow gamers. Bioware is not just a service provider after all, it's our friend.

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StaticJoe
05.25.2012 , 05:34 PM | #376
Quote: Originally Posted by pppgggr View Post
You people need to know that this is Bioware's -FIRST MMO-
Yet they had many successful, as well as unsuccessful, models to look at and to research...your point is irrelevant.


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In a mmo, they're rushing to put the patch out
This is a real problem because it means in all likelihood the patches are not being properly coded or properly tested...another irrelevant point



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When it comes to Customer support, most of the issues people have are there simply because they've never played an MMO before
On what are you basing this complete nonsense? Do you even read the forums? If you did, you would have noticed all the veteran MMO players



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For those of you whom can't even log into the game due to crashes, I don't blame you for unsubscribing
Right because the canned copy-paste responses which come from the CS flunkies don't resolve the person's issue while the help ticket is immediately closed as resolved.


These issues are of BW's own making--people unsubbing to go play something else is BW's fault and because people had to buy the game (which you don't have to do with WoW AND can play WoW for free up to 20th level WITHOUT having to enter your credit card information) THEN pay the monthly fee on top of that, some people subscribing for 6 months, only to see this game have as many problems as it has--again, many of BW's own creation--but without important features gamers demanded from a new "MMO". We could also discuss the BW dev's uneven and inconsistent weakening of classes as another pain point for gamers--people shouldn't have to roll and grind a new toon simply to be competitive in PVP, the classes are NOT balanced nor are all classes within 5% of each other...and BW knows it but they refuse to fix it. I don't at all PVP but I do side with them on this issue because it also affected we solo PVE'ers albeit to a lesser extent.


I resubbed to gring my alts and am having fun doing so, I won't deny that but this give BW time nonsense is complete garbage--this MMO was supposed to be different, it was supposed to have more subs than WoW...the fact of the matter is this game is NOT different and BW is making WoW's mistakes which is why TOR is losing subs as fast as WoW did...WoW has its Mists of Pandaria coming soon while TOR is supposed to have new stuff coming in both the 1.3 and 1.4 patches...WoW will be around for a long time to come because Blizzard has committed to it and will continue to commit to it...we have cause to question EA's committment to TOR as we creep ever closer to that 500K sub break even baseline...many of the people who left the game are NOT coming back--yes, BW will attract some people to return with rated WZ's, open world PVP and doing something to adjust server population but there is also a hefty percentage of people who will not return--they are so turned off by what they already experienced they have washed their hands of it
I swear on my medical license! The real one!

--Doctor Ryamn

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daveydiablo
05.25.2012 , 05:36 PM | #377
Quote: Originally Posted by Helistin View Post
Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that?
lol nice counter-quote mate

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Diet-Hutt
05.25.2012 , 05:46 PM | #378
Quote: Originally Posted by pppgggr View Post
Give. Bioware. Time.
I hear what you're saying, and they do STILL need time.
They needed a lot more before launch.

Still...this game isn't free.

So what you are essentially asking is that we keep paying them money until they finally deliver on a playable game.
A game they promised would work at launch.

I'm not sure I agree with that.
It's also a terrible business model.

- DH
"Wow, remind me to hide my headgear."

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Ten_Ton_Hammer
05.25.2012 , 08:50 PM | #379
The game isn't playable? Could've fooled me. I've found it quite playable and I'm near 50 on my second character.


You don't want playability. You want it to meet your expectations as you deem them.


Games been out six months or something. MMOs are long term and constantly evolving, changing, improving. Where was wow and guild wars after six months?

The only thing that makes me chuckle more than this is the crowd who've already managed to earn 50s on multiple, multiple alts whining about lack of content. It takes tremendous work and time to create. It takes nothing to sit back and experience. The devs cannot generate content as fast as the hardcore players gobble it down.

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Mirthadrond
05.25.2012 , 09:37 PM | #380
Quote: Originally Posted by pppgggr View Post
I've been hearing constant complaints about Bioware and the game itself. I'm not going to lie here; I've made some of these complaints myself. Once I gave myself time to think it over, however, I realized that there's no point in being irritated. You people need to know that this is Bioware's -FIRST MMO-. They're still learning how to do it. It takes time to learn how to make sufficient patches on the first try, or to polish the game to a certain degree. As store-shelf game designers, Bioware is used to being able to fix a mistake a long while after's it's made because they notice during the development and testing process. In a video game, you have at least a couple of months of testing. In a mmo, they're rushing to put the patch out(Here, I'm not talking about the actual game, just the patch. Bioware had several months of BETA to test it). Until Bioware learns some of these skills needed to run an MMO, we will notice some issues.

On top of inexperience, Bioware is also having issues with both EA and the Mass Effect 3 ending. EA has rushed them to complete both TOR and Mass Effect 3 on time in order to compete with other titles as is what happens when you have another company calling the shots for you. When it comes to Customer support, most of the issues people have are there simply because they've never played an MMO before. I've seen people complaining about selling something they needed and not getting a warning. That's simply how an MMO is. On top of that, TOR gets THOSANDS of help requests every day. If your ticket isn't addressed immediately, or is addressed inadequately, -BE PATIENT-. Continue asking for assistance if they failed to help you and you will get your answer eventually.

For those of you whom can't even log into the game due to crashes, I don't blame you for unsubscribing.....But if you do, and actually like the game, check back in with it eventually. Chances are, they will have fixed it.

Now then, before you say that I'm a Bioware/EA fanboy, please note that I have only ever played one Bioware game which was the original KOTOR and I preferred KOTOR II to that. When it comes to EA, I have two games by them that I don't really pay much mind.

Ok... I'm convinced. I'll give them time to fix things. In the meantime... I'm taking my gaming dollars elsewhere. When things are fixed, I'll come back and play again.
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