Undying Rage

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Undying Rage

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Armelle

05.24.2012 , 12:43 PM \| #141	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Valsdad In WoW, druids have a spell called Cyclone. It's a casted CC that works like Force Lift, but the caveat is that, once cycloned, the target cannot be damaged or healed. If this game had such a CC, then Undying Rage would be perfectly balanced because it would have a counter. That would require the right player to be there at the right time, but just make it so no spells/effects work during UR including dot-tick health returns, heals, and stims, and you'd be closer to balance. The fact that even supporters feel it needs tweaking pretty much tells the story. When the players that use an ability grudgingly admit it might need a slight tweak, you can be damn sure it's way OP .

Armelle

05.24.2012 , 12:46 PM \| #142	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeffor What about the times when this skill is on CD though? My sentinel is a beast with CDs up and/or a healer around. We take a heck of a beating when these options are not available however. Sometimes I get done with a run of WZs and all I can picture is my guy frozen in mid air or clutching his head in agony. Yeah, Marauders draw a lot of CCs...wonder why?

Valsdad

05.24.2012 , 12:47 PM \| #143	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeffor What about the times when this skill is on CD though? My sentinel is a beast with CDs up and/or a healer around. We take a heck of a beating when these options are not available however. Sometimes I get done with a run of WZs and all I can picture is my guy frozen in mid air or clutching his head in agony. Immunity to death on cool down? Okay, welcome to the lives of every other class, I guess.
Overtrebel, a right and proper scoundrel

LiveandDieinLA

05.24.2012 , 12:48 PM \| #144	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Valsdad Of all the classes you just listed, which is not a bloody tank? Thank you and good night. It's the only AC DPS AC that doesnt have stealth or range. Mara's need some meause or durability or they would be the worst AC in the game by a huge margin.
Aeryon / Aerror Bastion West Coast PVP

LiveandDieinLA

05.24.2012 , 12:49 PM \| #145	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Armelle Yeah, Marauders draw a lot of CCs...wonder why? Because proper use of CC shuts a mara down completely?
Aeryon / Aerror Bastion West Coast PVP

Tatebomb

05.24.2012 , 12:50 PM \| #146	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ I still like the idea of it having a cast time adn being interruptable... good players will shut it down and bad players will sit there and play whack a mole doing 5 dmg for 5 seconds. Only way that works is if you remove the health cost. A cast time at the typical <15% time where it's used would make it worthless. You'd be dead before it went off.
Jedi Covenant: Gothrik: 50 vanguard; Koracks: 50 sent ; Xeen 44 jugg; Gothric: 50 merc

Valsdad

05.24.2012 , 12:54 PM \| #147	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by LiveandDieinLA It's the only AC DPS AC that doesnt have stealth or range. Mara's need some meause or durability or they would be the worst AC in the game by a huge margin. Are you truly afraid of a scoundrel's ranged attacks? Do you truly believe that a sent is squishier than a scrapper or a melee shadow? But oh, there is the magical "stealth". A magical state that when entered removes your own self from the fight, and used to execute openers that deal less burst damage than classes that don't require stealth and positioning. I think your "rational logic" is quite biased my friend.
Overtrebel, a right and proper scoundrel

Tatebomb

05.24.2012 , 12:54 PM \| #148	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Armelle Yeah, GOOD Marauders draw a lot of CCs...wonder why? Fixed it for you. Unless the Mara is a good one there are other priority targets. If the sniper is the best player in the WZ then that sniper is getting focused on.
Jedi Covenant: Gothrik: 50 vanguard; Koracks: 50 sent ; Xeen 44 jugg; Gothric: 50 merc

Valsdad

05.24.2012 , 12:55 PM \| #149	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by LiveandDieinLA Because proper use of CC shuts a mara down completely? Concurrently; good use of CC shuts any class down, so all classes need Undying Rage then. You are CC'ed because you aren't a viable burn target. Imagine that, the most dangerous class cannot be focused. Somewhere, someone thought that was balanced.
Overtrebel, a right and proper scoundrel

Tatebomb

05.24.2012 , 12:56 PM \| #150	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Valsdad Concurrently; good use of CC shuts any class down, so all classes need Undying Rage then. By that same logic all classes need ranged and healing.
Jedi Covenant: Gothrik: 50 vanguard; Koracks: 50 sent ; Xeen 44 jugg; Gothric: 50 merc

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