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(From Taugrim.com)SWTOR Has Repeated RIFT’s Mistakes in Endgame PVP

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(From Taugrim.com)SWTOR Has Repeated RIFT’s Mistakes in Endgame PVP

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taugrimtaugrim
05.24.2012 , 12:28 AM | #271
Quote: Originally Posted by pathiss View Post
As much as I can't respect Taugrim as much of anything above an average player at best, from three games playing both with and against him
I expect to get trolled by people who don't know me, for any number of reasons. E.g. they don't like the specs I play, they disagree with my opinions, I'm perceived competition, etc. Anyone who writes guides or blogs expects this, it's par for the course.

However, as you said, you know me. Moreover, you regarded me in a completely different light in terms of skill level prior to SWTOR.

For example, here's a post from you about me in RIFT (red emphasis mine):
http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...ml#post3318904
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I really come across wrong in a lot of my posts. I like running hybrid builds as well and do so to increase my fun factor quite often. Like Taugrim, I can run a hybrid build and excel at it by out damaging, out surviving, and out healing the average joe because we are both exceptional gamers.

Taugrim has influenced the community greatly with his posts because his videos are informative and well put together and the fun factor for the spec he highlights is extremely high. The negative part of this is that not everyone is a top tier (1%) player like him.
So somehow I went from being an "exceptional gamer" and "top tier (1%)" in RIFT to "average player at best" now.

You and I have held differing views in terms of the viability of specs, e.g. some of the hybrid ones I've played. But there has never been a question of our respecting one another's ability, until now.

Regardless what happened in SWTOR between us, I've tried to be publicly respectful of your guild and you.
Taugrim
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wessik
05.24.2012 , 12:45 AM | #272
it was interesting to see that he mentioned that 31pt assassins/shadows and marauder/sents were also fotm on his server...

that's pretty much all i see on our server as well...
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Anishor
05.24.2012 , 12:47 AM | #273
Quote: Originally Posted by taugrimtaugrim View Post
There is a reasonably valid argument that purchasing different WH pieces instead of the WH weapon would have been a better choice.

To argue that downtrading RWZ comms to WZ comms to buy BM gear is plain stupid, however.
I probably would have gone with two of the implants @ WH plus two pieces of BM gear to get you, but your analysis of the gear discrepancies was pretty darned good in spotting hte problems, though I don't agree with your assessment of the balance pre-1.2 . But that can all be attributed to lack of high level WZs on Test. Not enough data to prove the combination screwed Sorcs over.
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Daystarr
05.24.2012 , 01:13 AM | #274
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Karsk View Post
And yeah i think most of us agree.Good blog by Taugrim as always.This man knows more
about your own PvP BioWare then your PvP team.

http://taugrim.com/2012/05/20/swtor-...n-endgame-pvp/
I dont know if its been mentioned already, but regardless I will state it now. One thing that discredits his entire article is that at the beginning of the article he said he plays a Scoundral and saved up 3.5k rwz comms, and 2k wz comms while levelling; then in the middle of the article he states PRE 1.2 CHANGES WAS THE BEST LVL 50 PVP HE EVER HAD.

Hmm, so which is it? This guy has no *********** clue what he's talking about. I couldnt even be bothered reading the rest of the article after seeing that ********. Haters gonna hate.
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williambr
05.24.2012 , 01:21 AM | #275
Quote: Originally Posted by Daystarr View Post
I dont know if its been mentioned already, but regardless I will state it now. One thing that discredits his entire article is that at the beginning of the article he said he plays a Scoundral and saved up 3.5k rwz comms, and 2k wz comms while levelling; then in the middle of the article he states PRE 1.2 CHANGES WAS THE BEST LVL 50 PVP HE EVER HAD.

Hmm, so which is it? This guy has no *********** clue what he's talking about. I couldnt even be bothered reading the rest of the article after seeing that ********. Haters gonna hate.
So you can't have played a character pre 1.2 and leveled a smuggler after 1.2? I'm not following.
Don't take me too seriously, I don't

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anticept
05.24.2012 , 01:35 AM | #276
Quote: Originally Posted by Daystarr View Post
I dont know if its been mentioned already, but regardless I will state it now. One thing that discredits his entire article is that at the beginning of the article he said he plays a Scoundral and saved up 3.5k rwz comms, and 2k wz comms while levelling; then in the middle of the article he states PRE 1.2 CHANGES WAS THE BEST LVL 50 PVP HE EVER HAD.

Hmm, so which is it? This guy has no *********** clue what he's talking about. I couldnt even be bothered reading the rest of the article after seeing that ********. Haters gonna hate.
You really that daft... He has a lvl 50 vanguard BM+rank pre 1.2 and the balance and class balance PRE 1.2 was much better than after 1.2 changes so obviously he leveled the scoundrel after 1.2 did low level pvp for the comms before dinging.

So next time get your facts straight before posting nonsense.
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Karsk View Post
This has nothing to do with what server it is.This bug is on all servers.

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Smashbrother
05.24.2012 , 01:48 AM | #277
Taugrim makes valid points, but his whole "Pre 1.2 pvp was less grindy/better for fresh 50s than post 1.2" point is wrong. Taugrim says that pre 1.2 was less grindy because gear was limited by the champ bags and you get them from dailies. Well think is, most people played tons of games to be able to purchase the champ bags with WZ/merc comms.

Also, playing lottery with my champ bags was not fun at all, and I had about a 10% chance to get an item token. It took sooooooo long to get geared up pre 1.2. Unless you were the luckiest man in the world, gearing up post 1.2 is much much faster.

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anticept
05.24.2012 , 02:14 AM | #278
Quote: Originally Posted by Smashbrother View Post
Taugrim makes valid points, but his whole "Pre 1.2 pvp was less grindy/better for fresh 50s than post 1.2" point is wrong. Taugrim says that pre 1.2 was less grindy because gear was limited by the champ bags and you get them from dailies. Well think is, most people played tons of games to be able to purchase the champ bags with WZ/merc comms.

Also, playing lottery with my champ bags was not fun at all, and I had about a 10% chance to get an item token. It took sooooooo long to get geared up pre 1.2. Unless you were the luckiest man in the world, gearing up post 1.2 is much much faster.
It´s about the same when they boosted the badges from champ bags if you did the merc/wzcomms 2k/2k you´d get min 3pcs of cent and 1 champ + weekly kills from ilum and if lucky weekly wins in 2-3 days you´d be full cent/champ in your first week and if lucky with item tokens faster. Now i admit that gearing this way took some dedication but it was doable if you logged in to do the ilum at peak hours and WZ pops was much more common then.

But if you consider that expertise wasn´t that big of a deal (as it is now) in pre 1.2 with full epic modded oranges + columni/rakata ear+implants you had more end+main stat and better secondary stats + the distribution of stats than with cent and almost identical with champ the grind didn´t seem that bad ofc if you ignored gearing and went in with lvl 20-40 greens and sub level mods you didn´t stand a chance but that was peoples own fault.

That´s just how i felt the gearing in pre 1.2 feel free to disagree but it came down to simply timing your playtime to rush hours to get ilum done in 20mins and weekly ilum in ~1½ hour.
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Karsk View Post
This has nothing to do with what server it is.This bug is on all servers.

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Baalseraph
05.24.2012 , 06:15 AM | #279
Quote: Originally Posted by Daystarr View Post
I dont know if its been mentioned already, but regardless I will state it now. One thing that discredits his entire article is that at the beginning of the article he said he plays a Scoundral and saved up 3.5k rwz comms, and 2k wz comms while levelling; then in the middle of the article he states PRE 1.2 CHANGES WAS THE BEST LVL 50 PVP HE EVER HAD.

Hmm, so which is it? This guy has no *********** clue what he's talking about. I couldnt even be bothered reading the rest of the article after seeing that ********. Haters gonna hate.
He played Vanguard to 50 and BM prior to 1.2. He started a sentinel alt prior to 1.2 but decided, after reading around getting the general perception that GUNSLINGER(not scoundrel like you erroneously posted) was weak, especially sharpshooter specced GUNSLINGER(capping this again because it is apparent that your reading comprehension is underwhelming at best), he decided to instead level a GUNSLINGER alt PRIOR to 1.2. He brought this ALT up through to 50 PRIOR and AFTER 1.2.

So nice feeble attempt to push whatever agenda you are trying to push. People like Taugrim(just ask Larry Everett, Gary Gannon, Total Biscuit, etc.) that push out content via blog, streaming, uploading videos, or guesting on specialty shows like Gamebreaker TV have a tendency to draw pathetic bottom-feeder trolls such as yourself like roaches to a rib roast(this is my interpretive wording by the way, I'm not near as nice as Taugrim about foot wipe material such as what you just posted). So congratulations on being rather typical and pathetic in that regard.
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Orangerascal
05.24.2012 , 06:53 AM | #280
Quote: Originally Posted by Daystarr View Post
I dont know if its been mentioned already, but regardless I will state it now. One thing that discredits his entire article is that at the beginning of the article he said he plays a Scoundral and saved up 3.5k rwz comms, and 2k wz comms while levelling; then in the middle of the article he states PRE 1.2 CHANGES WAS THE BEST LVL 50 PVP HE EVER HAD.

Hmm, so which is it? This guy has no *********** clue what he's talking about. I couldnt even be bothered reading the rest of the article after seeing that ********. Haters gonna hate.
He levelled a Gunslinger not a 'Scoundral', also your post makes no sense.
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