(From Taugrim.com)SWTOR Has Repeated RIFT’s Mistakes in Endgame PVP

From reading your post there must be alot og casual/bad players on your server who cant kill a "tank"
And just the factrthat you say class balance is good in 1.2 only proves you are beyond clueless.

I'm talking fresh 50 -> full warhero.

First of all, they removed 2 tiers of pvp gear. The fact you can buy a starter set with credits is a huge time saver. It also took you nearly 25 battlemaster tokens for a suit, at a 25% drop rate that meant you need roughly 100 dailies. Then, when your daily was done, you couldn't even progress further. People who can only log in every second day would require 3 months of play to get battlemaster. AND ALL OF THIS IS THEY ARE LUCKY. Tons of us were not lucky, and got drop rates of 10-15%. This is NOT EVEN CONSIDERING THE VALOR REQUIREMENT that everyone has conveniently forgotten. Grinding valor was 10 warzones a day every day for over a month. Last of all, now I have flexibility of being able to play when I want. I can kill a saturday and play 10 hours and get a full piece of warhero, and skip the weekdays instead of being stuck waiting on my daily timer.

Bad memories combined with bad players = 1.2 whine

I'm talking fresh 50 -> full warhero.

First of all, they removed 2 tiers of pvp gear. The fact you can buy a starter set with credits is a huge time saver. It also took you nearly 25 battlemaster tokens for a suit, at a 25% drop rate that meant you need roughly 100 dailies

Lets do the math on the two systems making an assumption of 6 games played a day to complete your daily, earning an average of 75 coms per match.

Pre 1.2 you would get .25 BM tokens a day from one daily and .125 from the other daily, and .1125 BM tokens from converting Comms to BM Tokens. That gives you 3.4125 BM Tokens a week + .5 from the two weeklies for an average of 3.9125 BM Tokens a week. Using these numbers, the average time to full BM was 6.39 weeks. This does not include the time to get to Champ gear or Valor rank 60.

Post 1.2 you need approx 29000 Ranked WZ Tokens (Not sure if that is exact number). You get 99 Ranked and 99 regular comms a day added to your 450 you won. That is 282 Rated Comms a day. This is 1974 a week + 133 from the weekly, or 2107 a week. By this system, you should be fully outfitted in 13.76 weeks. This does not include the time to get BM gear.

I was in near full BM before 1.2, and it was about 4-5 weeks from being a fresh 50 to hit that. I played more then 6 WZs a day average, and I was not unlucky on BM tokens, but about a month+ matches up fairly closely to the math above.

Since 1.2, I took most of a week to finish out the BM gear, and have gotten about 1/3 of my WH gear since then. At this rate, I will be fully outfitted in another 2 months give or take.

I actually do not mind the grind since I enjoy PvPing, but I do agree that it is much more of a grind to WH then BM ever was.

*Edited due to forgetting second Daily was 10 WZs played. Cut that Daily reward in 1/2*

To be fair, the current system is incomplete. We dont currently have the "intended" method to generate Ranked commendations. I dont believe it was ever the intent for Daily/Weeklies and WZ 3:1 token conversions to be the primary method of obtaining War Hero gear. 1.2 simply gave us a way to get a head start on it until Ranked Warzones actually come out. Once we see what the payout of Ranked tokens is we can see a more fair comparison of the two systems.

Or you're just framing in a way no one cares about. Champ dropped off the same dailies as both BM and Centurion (separately naturally). You could be full champ very quickly. Full champ was all you needed.

So again, post from guy who makes a glaring mistake at the begining (WH main instead of being half-BM geared?) and then proceeding to false conclusions based on his gaming experience impacted by above mistake is going to be an oralce and light of wisdom for forum dwellers (as before, with this TTK nonsence, probably caused by not adjusting his itemistion to 1.2 changes). Classic. Maybe some poeple should try to have their own opinion, not just blindly following guy who is changing MMOs more often than socks?

^THIS

He's obviously self proclaimed, and he's just trolled everyone.
I think his whole reality is fake, and you're all buyin it.

HF with that.

I was thinking the same thing. But you never know what the right thing to do is when you start a new game.