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What happened to Kreia's blood line in SW:TOR? [May contain spoilers]

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What happened to Kreia's blood line in SW:TOR? [May contain spoilers]

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Rayla_Felana
05.21.2012 , 03:19 PM | #21
I think her working with the Emperor makes sense, she used to hate the force, maybe now she hates life itself.

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Ranadiel_Marius
05.21.2012 , 04:30 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Temeluchus View Post
Like others have said, The Entity from the SW story is strongly hinted as being Kreia. The Codex entry and things Vowrawn and the Entity both say only further add to this.

I am hoping it is Kreia and that she will impact the future storyline in some fashion. We know from her she claims to be the Emperor's true love, and that she was waiting for the Emperor when Baras captured her. Given that plus our knowledge of Kreia's powers, the location of her death makes you wonder what she and the Emperor have been up to in the past and what they may do in the future now that she is free.

If it is Kreia and she has retained her Force powers, Force visions etc in death and takes her place with the Emperor, the galaxy could be in for a very,very rough ride.
Personally I took her line about waiting on the Emperor to be the implying the Force equivilent of waiting outside the pearly white gates of Heaven for someone else to die so the two people can go in together. I strongly doubt that the Emperor is teaming up with her in the immediate future because he had several centuries during which that was an option before Baras captured her and instead the Emperor used Revan to get visions of the future.
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Temeluchus
05.21.2012 , 05:05 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Ranadiel_Marius View Post
Personally I took her line about waiting on the Emperor to be the implying the Force equivilent of waiting outside the pearly white gates of Heaven for someone else to die so the two people can go in together. I strongly doubt that the Emperor is teaming up with her in the immediate future because he had several centuries during which that was an option before Baras captured her and instead the Emperor used Revan to get visions of the future.
Perhaps. Maybe the Entity has limitations since she is dead and Revan didn't because he was alive, maybe he used the Entity along with Revan, maybe he didn't discover her until recently and then Baras snatched her away. We just don't know so we're forced to guess.

I just hope that wasn't the end of her involvement in the story and if we don't get future story content with her, some solid,definitive answers about her connection to the Emperor would be nice, even if it's from one of the devs in a forum Q and A or post.
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tolaf
05.21.2012 , 05:20 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Temeluchus View Post
Perhaps. Maybe the Entity has limitations since she is dead and Revan didn't because he was alive, maybe he used the Entity along with Revan, maybe he didn't discover her until recently and then Baras snatched her away. We just don't know so we're forced to guess.

I just hope that wasn't the end of her involvement in the story and if we don't get future story content with her, some solid,definitive answers about her connection to the Emperor would be nice, even if it's from one of the devs in a forum Q and A or post.
It's BW look at their track record, do you really think you'll be getting answers.
Also i really wish SWTOR made more refferrences to the KOTOR games, those missions/characters are the most entertaining.
But i have a feeling the SWTOR people would ruin the story by making it shallow and simple with no complexity.
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clintcasey
05.22.2012 , 12:59 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Stryges View Post
Actually, I am not sure that is true. The Disciple (Mikal)is officially the one who followed the Exile (since she was female) and then reformed the order.
While Female exile is canon, canon Exile had both Mikal and Handmaden on her ship. I realize that this is impossible in Knights of the Old Republic 2, but it is canon non the less. Which means that all the conversations in the video could have happened in the canon storyline, and likely did happen, and are likely canon.
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donuttyjedi
05.22.2012 , 11:46 AM | #26
It seems kreia was almost redeemed after tsl but she said there must always be a darth traya. I think she will betray the emperor

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RevanKnight
05.22.2012 , 02:17 PM | #27
What do you mean Kreia's bloodline? Last time I checked, Arren Kae and Kreia being the same character was just speculation. I also thought one of the people who made KOTOR II said they were different people.

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Jandi
05.23.2012 , 04:07 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by clintcasey View Post
While Female exile is canon, canon Exile had both Mikal and Handmaden on her ship. I realize that this is impossible in Knights of the Old Republic 2, but it is canon non the less. Which means that all the conversations in the video could have happened in the canon storyline, and likely did happen, and are likely canon.
The reason for this is because originally, you either got Brianna OR Visas depending on your alignment at some point and had nothing to do with the sex of your character, you were supposed to always get Mical. Sadly though, it was changed and just sort of patched together, like the whole game. You were also supposed to get Atris as a follower to counter-balance Kreia. They changed a lot about the game but didn't have time to completely redo it, hence why it's a mess.

IIRC the male/mical and female/brianna conversation files are still in the sound files if you look.

I remember some Obsidian dev explain it all. Additionally, they started making it before Kotor 1 was even out, that's why it feels so disconnected from kotor 1 in many parts.

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Temeluchus
05.23.2012 , 05:35 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Jandi View Post
The reason for this is because originally, you either got Brianna OR Visas depending on your alignment at some point and had nothing to do with the sex of your character, you were supposed to always get Mical. Sadly though, it was changed and just sort of patched together, like the whole game. You were also supposed to get Atris as a follower to counter-balance Kreia. They changed a lot about the game but didn't have time to completely redo it, hence why it's a mess.

IIRC the male/mical and female/brianna conversation files are still in the sound files if you look.

I remember some Obsidian dev explain it all. Additionally, they started making it before Kotor 1 was even out, that's why it feels so disconnected from kotor 1 in many parts.
So let me see if I have this right: Lucas Arts greenlit a sequel, had BioWare come up with basic story elements and game framework, then handed it off to Obsidian, pushed them to rush it through,causing them to cut parts;all before KOTOR had even hit the shelves and they could determine if it would sell, let alone be popular enough to warrant a sequel?

/headdesk

Wookieepedia is not the perfect place for reliable,accurate information but this should clear things up for you:

"Development of The Sith Lords began at approximately the same time that the original Knights of the Old Republic was released for the Xbox, on July 15, 2003."
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