1.3 Darth Hater article

Cool, hadnt seen this, thanks

They said that? Where?

Its been all over the place. Its even in the article this thread was made about. They think it will ruin the non existant community if they have cross server lfg.

How could you miss it? People post it all the time to somehow win an argument that isn't even being argued about.

Interesting. I don't like it either, but since I won't use it I don't really care if other people do.

It's called patting yourself on the back for doing a **** job, and boy do they love to do just that.

Right, they were after WoWs numbers - that said Bizzards counts everything as apples and apples... and that just leads to issues in numbers. Did they hit 10mil? sure I'll give it to them. Who is their biggest customer, China.. and you do understand that the way we buy and play, say WoW, here in the US is -not- the same way it's sold in China, right? Anyway. this is all besides the point I was trying to make... MY point was in not listening 100% to a single crowd of people that have only ever played one game and only ever want to play clones of said game.. This argument makes no sense since if they only want to play Clones, why not just play the original game? I won't debate with a WoW fanboy though... i'll just refer back to my #1 listed above.

All argumentative fallacies.. back on point.. When a game is as easy as TOR is, there is no point to play it for very long, it has no "staying power". If that is what they want, that is fine, but they shouldn't act all surprised if their numbers drop off. I'm guess they wanted staying power though..

People are screaming for transfers and mergers, which they should, the game is streatched out over too many servers... The issue is, once they do get into that group and do the zone they desprately want, there is nothing to do after. The game is designed and built around people playing alts as endgame - and many people are finding out that "alts" is a pretty lossy endgame mechanic.

again, just my opinion.

I understand the China impact on WoW's numbers but nobody can tell me what those numbers are and what the rest (North America, UK) are as well. Give me a break down of WoW's subs by Region. Even if the N. American/UK numbers are just 4 million, that's still a hell of a lot better than any other MMO. My arguement is that the "mega" team targeted WoW's numbers but ignored how Blizz got those numbers and maintain them. And yes, WoW is back down to 10.2 mill (OH GOD!) but the new expansion, as always, will bring it back up to 12+.


I agree with what you said there. The failure in this game goes beyond just the grouping problem.

Once upon a time it was 4m. Then Cataclysm, Rift, Tera, SWTOR happened.

They lost like 1.5m accounts.

You can't count China subs since you never know when the account time has expired. You buy the game for $5 and then you're a sub for life.

It worries me that the devs have no clue and by the time they do finally see/accept all the clues smacking them in their faces it will be too late to act on what should have been obvious months before but they were too lazy to work on. LFG is a good idea...server only LFG with current population issues is only going to fail massively and cost them even more subs. By the time they do finally figure it out there just wont be enough people around to save anything.