So really? WOW killer?

This quote sums up my thoughts exactly. Without being naive I have noticed a drop in players on my server. Either they were just bad at Swtor overall OR if they were "good" , they had an awkward issue such as "NO mic for ventrillo" which nullifies their use as main healers/ tanks. They are missed but easily replaceable by a more savvy player over time. Fyi i have witnessed numerous i have Vent but no mic" in Swtor. Sheer coincidence but weird none the less. Those people were always quick to Type out braggadocious claims of experience about games like WoW and during mishaps in operations YET have no mic/ no interest in buying a cheap replacement. I CALL SHENANNIGANS, good riddance to those types.

No P2P MMO worth playing until Titan comes out probably

THIS and this again-^

SWTOR could have easily became huge but due to poor management it went south fast. The devs went off partying too hard after launch seemingly abandoning the game for 2 months. When they got back it was already too late.

It was hard to watch. Another potentially wonderful game woefully mismanaged.

Same here, 4 level 85's, and I tried to get out of that annual pass contract yesterday, they didn't let me. I can't even really log into the game anymore...it's so.....so...I can't describe it....but my interest in WOW is now completely gone.

This is the only MMO that I ever want to play now, this is it.

I like how your post when off on a completely random and totally off-topic rant about vent and not having mics.

Odd fellow is odd.

Titan was canceled.

Supposedly it was a Halo based MMO that was to take place after the games. But since Bungie sold the Halo title to Microsoft, and Microsoft is not working on 3 more Halo games; so with that it through the project out the window. Blizzard is no focusing more on WoW expansions.

Which explains whip MoP looks very refreshing and more creative then its last 2 expansions.

The community on the forums is rarely reflective of the community in the game. Since so few people actually post anything here. I have a friend who posts any issue through some form of ingame customer service and gets actual live chat replies. She hates the forums with the fiery passions of hell because of the constant vitriol and lack of constructive feedback (this game sucks, it's dying and only doing THIS, RIGHT NOW!!@!@! is not constructive feedback) and she relies on me to tell her anything important regarding announcements.

As for your list of poor design decisions, I don't find most of them troubling to the long term health of the game, barring a few caveats. Orange gear can work as long as the available pool keeps expanding, which it is. As long as features available to character regarding gear become available to the companions, which they've stated they will, like match to chestpiece and hood down toggle when it's in.

Addition of more difficult endgame content, I wouldn't expect until after the base game was released anyway, and likely not until the first true expansion. All endgame content in a first release has to take into consideration the learning curve for people for whom it might be completely new territory. Later expansions can assume they had the earlier content to learn on. I know that's tough for the veteran gamers, and they tried to spice it up with nightmare for you, but you have to assume as a dev designing a game that SOME PEOPLE have just not played this type of game before. We actually do have in our guild a couple of people who haven't played MMO's, therefore never raided. They're fast learners, but the ease of the curve on initial content does exist for that very reason. Not everyone IS a hugely fast learner, and you can't just write them out of your business model.

It doesn't take any longer to travel from my ship to another location than it did for me to UNLOCK the bells that were EQ2's first travel option and had unlocking quests tied to them past the starter zones for the first six months or more of the game. Or to travel from bell to griffin to bell to get to where I was going. I wish they'd fix the planets where travel to ship is broken and I wish they'd let you travel straight from ship to planet. But it's funny......they made it take a bit of time to get on the ship and travel places because one of people's biggest complaints is that really fast and easy travel makes travel seem trivial. That it SHOULD take time. I thought they did a pretty good job balancing the time, myself, but that's just me, having seen both the travel forever and instaclick sides of the spectrum.

Space combat.....they've stated repeatedly they have something big in the works with that that couldn't make it into launch, and I believe them on that. I would rather see it released workable and polished than rushed and broken so that more people would come complaining on the forums about how the end of SWTOR is near. I'm looking forward to seeing their project and hope it really does turn out to be enjoyable.

The game itself though......other than the usual freshman bug fixes and content not in game at launch that is being added, I really like the game. It's definitely focused on class and story and if you find them boring quickly, I think the game would bore you brainless before long. No MMO is ever going to actually please all gamers out there. I have no plans to touch GW2 with a ten foot pole, because it's not my style. But I know that up front, and I wouldn't go play GW2 and then sit there talking about how much the game sucks because of features not meant for my playstyle (like Legacy is obviously meant for a certain set of players - my guildies are mostly having fun with it), and how every other coming MMO will be SO MUCH BETTER.

Not everyone likes the same things. The world is wonderful that way. And the people who do like the game, Legacy, the class stories, what to us is the great replayability with different classes, and the voice acting, are pretty much the target audience. Not fanbois, I didn't even follow the game, until my brother shoved it into my hands in February for my birthday, as I was off MMO's since SOE"s EQ2 security debacle a year or so ago. I just like it for what it is, but then I had no expectations I'd built up. Do I want more....of course, particularly fixes in PVP that SHOULD be a priority, and I hope ARE, but more is coming, more always does in MMO's. I'm looking forward to seeing what.

setting the bar for what to expect from a game at launch? Really... are you blaming a game company because they don't have what wow does 7 years after wow was launched?

How about we nit pick wow about what they didn't have when swtor was launched...

A rich experience in lore.... you don't just sit on the sideline... your class story makes you feel like you are actually making a difference...

How about companions..... Nope not a single companion on wow.... unlessd you count pets which honestly is weaker than swtor companions

How about moddable gear.. not transmogging or what ever they call it... you get a moddable piece of gear soon as you finish your first planet.. yet in wow you have to make it to 85 to tweak your stats... and then it's a limited tweak.

So go ahead... try pointing the blame at bioware... because they don't have everything that wow does.... Just remember... wow don't have everything swtor does either...

This is coming from a raid lead of wow for 7 years... was ranked 53th in the world for guild progression thru BC.
Wow had it's moments but it's dated and what they are coming out with now is nothing but a cycle of gutting a system and redoing it. Swtor is stilol trying to bring new stuff out.. like legacy...another thing WOW will prolly rip off from swtor.

just a side note, blizzard does not control your bank account, you are still free (in most country) to use your money however you like. If you oppose to the monthly fee, blizzard will have no choice to freeze your account. They will not permanently close it, they never do, it has always be their business strategy to let the door open for costumer to come back, its part of what has made their strengh. You might however lose the licence of diablo 3 and access to the MoP beta.

Though there is a vested interest in making Titan B2P and adding a cash shop. Yet since peope think it is an MMORPG there is no way for people to know that. Blizzard is looking hard at that structure for Titan as they are trying to cater to the casual facebook user and not the "mainstream" MMORPG veteran. Don't be surprised if the game is B2P with a cash shop targeting Zynga customers. Though in people's minds they are dreaming of this awesome follow up hit to WoW, it just isn't going to happen. If SWTOR fails then all you are going to have in the next 5 years is TES online or stick with WoW and it's child like gameplay.